Manziel Debate

[LMITOUT]

Doesn't read as very speculative at all.

[zepman]

I think we all knew this on Thursday night...maybe not the specifics but that they wanted JF in the 22 spot.

Personally, I would have been ok giving up our 1st next year to get him...I think he's gonna be that good.

I'm ok with the Bridgewater pick at 32, too. I'll wait and give him the opportunity to either make it or not. I think he can be really good too.

[fishersofmen]

Doesn't read as very speculative at all.

That's because it isn't. They wanted him and they blew it.

I'm with you zep they should have made it happen.

[CaptainMusky]

Its speculative because it isn't directly from the mouth of the people in the room. Again I ask why does it matter? IF they wanted him would they make a trade with the team most likely competing for the same guy at 8? Would they then pass him up at 9 if he was truly their guy?

[FISHINGURU]

It didn't happen so its water under the bridge.

Or is it Bridge over the Water?

[LMITOUT]

They wanted him and they blew it.

They blew it alright...not once, not twice, but THREE times.

That's what they deserve for trying to get cute.

[Big Dave2]

If they were ok giving up a first round pick next year to get him, why didn't they just use their first round pick this year on him?

[FISHINGURU]

They weren't ok with it, that's why they didn't do it.

[fishersofmen]

I don't think they were ok with that deal which is why Cleveland swept in and got the pick. Zimmer insisted on getting a defensive player with the first pick and were hoping Manziel would slide and they could trade up. In the end we get the consolation prize..Tinyhands Bridgeflopper.

[BuckSutherland]

I have said it before and I will say it again. When the QB touches the ball on every play he is the most important guy on the field. He is the one calling audibles etc. They blew it by not taking him right away. Who cares about some donkey on D. We have had several defensive studs in franchise history. NONE of them ever brought us a championship.

QB is by far and away the most important position and if JM was their guy they should have taken him. They blew the first round of the draft very badly. Settling on your third choice at QB is not a success, especially since we are gonna have to watch this puke for the next 3-4 years before they give up and try again. Spielman said it himself on Rosen's sports Sunday.

[FISHINGURU]

QB is by far and away the most important position and if JM was their guy they should have taken him.

If they wanted him so bad they wouldn't of traded with Cleveland and let them have their 2nd shot at him, and they would of took him at #9 after Cleveland passed on him again. He must not of been as highly rated on teams draft board as he is on this site.

The best part about it all is the JM crew saying how we blew it so bad and none of these QB's have even taken an NFL snap.

[BuckSutherland]

I am not a fan of JM, but I would have much rather had him on the team than Teddy Toiletwater.

[LABS4ME]

It's hilarious how many of my buddies the week before the draft wanted nothing to do with Teddy B, said thryd quit be a MN fan, now they act like he's the second coming of Tom Brady! Stole him at 32 they say.,, I just chuckle.,.. With the 32nd pick in the 2014 draft, the Vikings pick (any qb still on the board) and the rubes instantly crown him as an awesome pick. Norv will mold him... Only Time will tell if Teddy Bricklofter will pan out.

Good Luck!

Ken

[FISHINGURU]

The plot thickens!!! Maybe the Vikings and Browns should just trade QB's since they both wanted the other one.

Quote:

Did a year of dysfunction cost the Cleveland Browns their preferred quarterback in the 2014 NFL Draft?

Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, the 32nd overall pick last Thursday, was on the board when the Browns traded the 26th overall pick and a third-rounder to the Philadelphia Eagles for the 22nd pick, with the intent of drafting a quarterback to compete with current starter Brian Hoyer.

According to reports -- vehemently denied Monday by coach Mike Pettine -- the Browns were primed to select Bridgewater but at the last minute switched their choice to Texas A&M sophomore Johnny Manziel.

Bridgewater said Tuesday on the "Dan Patrick Show" that he informed agent Kennard McGuire that he did not want to play in Cleveland.

"I actually told my agent that's not the place where I wanted to be," Bridgewater told Patrick Tuesday in the midst of several rounds of media interviews.

[greebs]

It's hilarious how many of my buddies the week before the draft wanted nothing to do with Teddy B, said thryd quit be a MN fan, now they act like he's the second coming of Tom Brady! Stole him at 32 they say.,, I just chuckle.,.. With the 32nd pick in the 2014 draft, the Vikings pick (any qb still on the board) and the rubes instantly crown him as an awesome pick. Norv will mold him... Only Time will tell if Teddy Bricklofter will pan out.

Good Luck!

Ken

Almost as crazy as the people who think the player that a bunch of teams passed on and slid on draft day is the next (insert your all time best rated qb here)!

[thatoneguy]

Rodgers, Brees, Montana, Brady...there is precedent, at least.

[DrJuice1980]

I'd rather have JM. When you think about it you're not going to get mediocre play from Johnny. You're either going to get great or terrible. The terrible would at least be somewhat entertaining. Bridgewater is going to eat arse. It's going to be as entertaining as the Brad Johnson era, the second one.

We got ripped off at 32. I'd even rather have McCarron.

[fishersofmen]

+1.

[DrJuice1980]

McCarron and Manziel at least had attitude too. Bridgewater just seems bland, flat, like something took the sizzle out. Bridgewater definitely isn't carbonated.

[FISHINGURU]

I don't think there are many people out there that wouldn't take JM over Teddy but alot of people didn't want either lol.

JM will be a living legend if he can manage a good career with the Browns. He has a tough road ahead of him, more then likely he'll start right away without any weapons. Gordon will be suspended, Burleson already rebroke his pizza holding arm. They have a decent defense though so he'll have his chances on offense.

He'll probably be a better QB in fantasy football then real life.

[zepman]

With the Vikings track record of drafting QB's, maybe it's a good thing we didn't get "our" guy.

Who am I kidding...JF will be a rock star and Bridgewater will more than likely flop.

[greebs]

I don't think there are many people out there that wouldn't take JM over Teddy but alot of people didn't want either lol.

JM will be a living legend if he can manage a good career with the Browns. He has a tough road ahead of him, more then likely he'll start right away without any weapons. Gordon will be suspended, Burleson already rebroke his pizza holding arm. They have a decent defense though so he'll have his chances on offense.

He'll probably be a better QB in fantasy football then real life.

I think there's a good possibility he will have very good fantasy numbers his first year or two if he stays healthy. Glad he's not on Vikes but would take him on a fantasy team.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him have RG3 type numbers his rookie year but do expect that just like RG3 that he's going to take some hard hits when he takes off running and with his smaller body stature, would be surprised if he has a long and healthy career.

[greebs]

Heard it again on Espn radio yesterday that Cleve had tb written on their card but owner at last second ordered them to take jm instead. Interesting all these stories about vikes and Cleve ending up with supposedly the qb they didn't actually want.

[DrJuice1980]

Bridgewater has stated publicly that he told his agent he wanted nothing to do with Cleveland. Yup we not only got a shytshow QB but a Prima donna as well

The puke in my mouth was harder to choke down looking at this than the Michael Sam cake episode.

[fishersofmen]

Good grief.