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Will anyone even challenge Alabama this year (YES, Texas AM)....or next ? (Yes, Auburn & Oklahoma)

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And I read that as....

I can't believe the Aggies beat my Tide and actually proved on the field the Texas A&M Aggies are the better team so I will spout off nonsense about how the tide is better even though they squashed my tide last time. Good thing for these popularity contests that inflate the Tides rankings. We need to stay away from the play-offs or we might have to face the Aggies again and actually prove the braggadocio that is coming out of me. laugh

My desire to keep playoffs out of the picture has nothing to do with the fact that I happen to be an Alabama fan. If all I cared about was my team winning I would say go for it because Bama would have a great chance of winning a national title EVERY year. All they would have to do is win enough games to get to the playoffs and then run the table from there. Regular season would become useless like high school football.

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I understand plenty about the history of college football and what's wrong with it. The fact that there are teams that start the season with no hope of winning the title is wrong. You can win every game you play and lose the nat'l title to a team that has a loss. That's a broken system that favors the established schools and big conferences.

The system favors teams that play tough competition.

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Agreed there Dave, why in the world can 0-8 high school teams make the playoffs ? One more beating ? 1 last trip in the ambulance ? I last long drive to get just hammered making your record even more desireable at 0-9. Let those teams pack it in and give the # 1 seed a bye. The parents tire of watching drubbings all season long. Unless all your studs are out with a 6 weeker for drinking and you play 2 tough squads and go 0-2 against them, for your 0-8, you got no chance at all. Never have never will, not in the game of football, tennis sure, golf why not, when it's all-state athletes pounding sand up there .....you get the drift.

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How can 0-8 teams possibly make the playoffs? That seems like a bad system, and certainly not applicable to discussion about D1 college playoffs, given that only the top 4, 8, 16 or so teams would be making the playoffs

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How can 0-8 teams possibly make the playoffs? That seems like a bad system, and certainly not applicable to discussion about D1 college playoffs, given that only the top 4, 8, 16 or so teams would be making the playoffs

How can you make a cut-off at 16 or less? How many basketball teams ranked less than 16th have won a national championship? There must be a few that have? Aggies were ranked 15th when they beat Alabama, in a tournament of 8 teams they wouldn't have even been part of the conversation. In a tournament of 16 teams there will always be that #17 team that only has 1 or 2 losses that thinks they should have made the play-offs.

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How can 0-8 teams possibly make the playoffs? That seems like a bad system, and certainly not applicable to discussion about D1 college playoffs, given that only the top 4, 8, 16 or so teams would be making the playoffs

In the Minnesota River Conference we had a 1 win team win the section and end up playing in the 1st round of the State Tournament.

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The playoffs might be exciting but you would ruin the atmosphere of the regular season games. Look at the NFL, the Vikings even still have a chance of making the playoffs, what does THAT tell you?

How would a playoff bracket of 16 out of 180 teams or however many there are out there now ruin the atmosphere of regular season college games?

How does the vikings season right now help add anything to your point about devaluation of regular season vs post season games? Not to mention the fact you're dead off on the vikes having a chance of making the playoffs. They have as much chance at the playoffs as Loyd Christmas had with hookin up with Mary.

How would a defined number of teams not to exceed 16 making it into the post seaso detract from regular season games any more than the current atmosphere of 11112223323222 bowl games?

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In the Minnesota River Conference we had a 1 win team win the section and end up playing in the 1st round of the State Tournament.

To GoBlue's point... how does this apply to D1 Football?

No way a top 16 team will have 0 or 1 wins.

Even if they have Alabama on their schedule.

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How would a playoff bracket of 16 out of 180 teams or however many there are out there now ruin the atmosphere of regular season college games?

How does the vikings season right now help add anything to your point about devaluation of regular season vs post season games? Not to mention the fact you're dead off on the vikes having a chance of making the playoffs. They have as much chance at the playoffs as Loyd Christmas had with hookin up with Mary.

How would a defined number of teams not to exceed 16 making it into the post seaso detract from regular season games any more than the current atmosphere of 11112223323222 bowl games?

So do you suppose an undefeated team going into it's 7th game of the season would still have the same atmosphere if you knew that all you have to be is in the top 16 teams in order to make the playoffs? A loss would mean nothing anymore. Most years under the current system a team would need to go undefeated in order to play for the national championship.

I wouldn't expect gopher fans to understand the excitement of college football.

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So do you suppose an undefeated team going into it's 7th game of the season would still have the same atmosphere if you knew that all you have to be is in the top 16 teams in order to make the playoffs? A loss would mean nothing anymore. Most years under the current system a team would need to go undefeated in order to play for the national championship.

I wouldn't expect gopher fans to understand the excitement of college football.

If you have a first round bye option in the playoffs you would probably get around the whole "won 7 games, have playoffs locked, let's take out all our starters" That's one possible solution.

And a simple counter point to your point would be simply I think that there's a thought out there that the national championship is really a "championship" with how the current bcs is structured.

If you believe me to be a gopher football fan you would be mistaken. This is a thread about Alabama, yes?

I can't stand Alabama. Why?

Because each year they play my favorite team in the Iron Bowl. Not good for me this year... nope. Not one bit.

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I can't stand Alabama. Why?

Because each year they play my favorite team in the Iron Bowl. Not good for me this year... nope. Not one bit.

Now we are getting to the bottom of your hostility!

I am sorry to hear that you are an Auburn fan. I'll let you jump on the Bama bandwagon if you want, I won't tell anyone. grin

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I actually like the BCS system. There are a couple quirks that could use some fixing, but I like it better than the proposed playoff system. I think what's hurting college football more than the BCS is all these teams swapping conferences. A&M and Missouri in the SEC? West Virginia in the big 12? Maryland and Rutgers moving to the big ten? Are kidding me with this garbage?!?!?!

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I actually like the BCS system. There are a couple quirks that could use some fixing, but I like it better than the proposed playoff system. I think what's hurting college football more than the BCS is all these teams swapping conferences. A&M and Missouri in the SEC? West Virginia in the big 12? Maryland and Rutgers moving to the big ten? Are kidding me with this garbage?!?!?!

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It's obvious you haven't.

Oregon only had 2 halfway decent teams on their whole schedule. The first one was an overrated USC team that Oregon gave up 51 points to and the other was Stanford who they lost to.

You can try hard to compare a Pac-12 schedule to an SEC schedule all you want but that won't make them similar.

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Of course not because the Pac 12 is and has been a better conference with tougher schedules over the years laugh

SEC=HYPE without the substance smile

Alabama is cup-caking it now.

I can certainly point out a huge fact bama lost to the Texas A&M Aggies.

Talk about an embarrassment.

I guess it's a good thing they have a cupcake schedule remaining.

The SEC is no more than media hype.

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