Opener Moved Up

[Hookey]

Since this is about money, Rather than compare it to Christmas try black Friday. For resort owners opener can be the biggest weekend of their season. If you know what goes on behind the scenes at a resort opening a weekend early is not a small task especially with this short notice. Believe it or not many resort owners take outside jobs between ice out and opener they do not sit home wishing they had more money.

Think of all you need to open, food cooks servers bus boys dishwashers ice boats docks portolets gas bait supplies. Labor could be the issue and if you open unprepared you will get torn up by customers you might even get your business blasted in a state wide forum. Sure you can simply not even try to open but that has it s pitfalls as well.

Just sayin this is no small deal.

[goose89]

+1 Hookey.

I'm not a resort owner, but I do realize there's alot more to making $$ at a resort than making reservations and counting up the $$. As the prior poster alluded to, the possiblility of not having /being able to have all your ducks in a row before the opener could lead to chaos and unhappy customers.

As we know, we're a fickle crowd and bad reviews tend to fly easier than good around here. Can't speak for them myself, but I could understand why some don't want this to happen. The "cry me a river" sentiment doesn't fly here....I'd assume they'd all like to be ready and increase income, but would rather not gamble at not being able to provide the goods they usually do.

[mnguy152]

Now on the other side of the coin we get a real late ice out think they will push the open back? I don't care either way. I wish the DNR would have more control over their jobs instead of the elected officals. I think some times they think since they are elected that they are smarter than us who put them in.

[fishingstar]

I talked to the owner of the small seasonal campground that we stay at on the opener. He said opening a week sooner will get the seasonal people a week sooner. putting $$$ in his pocket.

[JohnMickish]

All I know is I just got off the water after fishing for 11 hours. Opener means nothing to me anymore.

Exactly. I have been fishing open water for the last 4 weeks. Opener to me is when it's warm enough to fish out of a boat, not what the calender says.

[minnducker]

Interesting --- but back to the original question, where does this stand? Is the opener early ??? Out of state right now and need to know. Also, I checked the DNR web site news releases and headlines and they have NO information there one way or the other. WTH? Incredible.

[goose89]

I talked to the owner of the small seasonal campground that we stay at on the opener. He said opening a week sooner will get the seasonal people a week sooner. putting $$$ in his pocket.

A small seasonal campground is a totally different operation than a full-service resort.

[Maverick]

Oh, my gosh, the evil big government actually might give us a choice. How dare they!! Don't they know we are Schara's sheep and don't like choices. Limit said it best a few posts ago. Go fishing on the 5th or don't. Go fishing on the 12th or don't or go to both or don't. If you are a resort owner, open early if you want or can. If you don't want to or can't then don't. No matter how you cut it, it is a "First World" problem.

[chris63]

The house passed the the Omnibus game and fish bill (hf2171) on Tuesday.The companion bill in the senate(sf1943) has NOT passed.The legislature is off all this week so the earliest it could possibly be even heard is Monday the 16th.I believe there is some more amending to be done in committee before we see any movement on the monstrosity of a bill.c63

[cribbageboy]

After reading a couple of the last posts, I stand corrected. Didn't realize Dill would have that many people willing to play his game, but it sounds like there is at least a couple folks with disposable income, and flexible work schedules.

For me, the idea of freeing up two weekends in a row for fishing opener(s) wasn't ever an option, but if this bill gets as many takers as it sounds, I'm willing to take it.... on the economy's behalf.

[chris63]

When their considering a bill or bills of this size it's very hard to figure out why legislatures jump in and out of the the yea and nae lanes.I believe sometimes there colleagues add or subtract language to give them ins and or outs.These are very complicated issues that have a lot more at stake than one might consider at the time.Just like anything else actions have consequences and we don't always see or understand them until after the fact.c63

[Hookey]

Thanks, all I am saying is it is a big deal and for many not as easy as don't wanna do it don't.

Again understand this was added to a existing bill. My hunch is it is not about the opener at all. Simply sweetener for the rest of the package. ie wolf hunt.....

[pushbutton]

After reading a couple of the last posts, I stand corrected. Didn't realize Dill would have that many people willing to play his game, but it sounds like there is at least a couple folks with disposable income, and flexible work schedules.

For me, the idea of freeing up two weekends in a row for fishing opener(s) wasn't ever an option, but if this bill gets as many takers as it sounds, I'm willing to take it.... on the economy's behalf.

Now I am starting to see the light...it is looking more and more like kickback to the rich to profit in walleyes off the poor working class backs. For a show of solidarity i will just fish for rough fish if it passes....

[fishingstar]

Bass opener don't open until may 26

[RumRiverRat]

Bass opener don't open until may 26

It is always open on Pool 2,3,4,5 and so on.

[Big Tom]

Who are you people? Someone is trying to offer the chance for an extra weekend of fishing on a lake that you want to go to instead of a river or out of state and many people are complaining. I don't get it.

Impossible to argue with logic as sound as this.

Ron Schara's goofy article today and a lot of posts on this thread. Not so much.

[thatoneguy]

Go fishing on the 5th or don't. Go fishing on the 12th or don't or go to both or don't. If you are a resort owner, open early if you want or can. If you don't want to or can't then don't. No matter how you cut it, it is a "First World" problem.

Amen. I can't believe all the whining and hand-wringing over a bill that would simply give people the OPTION of having a bonus week of fishing.

[pushbutton]

Its has been diagnosed as a medical condition with many acute cases that outbreak in Minnesota.....Its called I Am Not Happy Unless I Have Something To Complain About Syndrome.

[Sonicrunch]

Its has been diagnosed as a medical condition with many acute cases that outbreak in Minnesota.....Its called I Am Not Happy Unless I Have Something To Complain About Syndrome.

:-)

This forum is crybaby central. That's fine with me. If I am ever feeling down, all I gotta do is come hear and read a few threads, and then I realize how happy I am to be me.

[cribbageboy]

Pushbutton,

I would love to know what you do for a living, but since I don't...think about this for a minute.

I'm sure you put in your 40 hours doing something every week. Would you like it if some politician stepped in and told you how to do your job? I'm gonna guess you wouldn't get 'warm fuzzys' about that situation.

I realize it is a fairly miniscule issue we're talking about here, but its a slippery slope.....

[Hookey]

The medical condition I am seeing is tunnel vision . If a politician is given the power to move the season up one week on a whim then you have given them the control to move it back one week. Ever think of that ?

This change was introduced by a politician and I am not certain how much research went into it or how it was presented to the DNR or wildlife managers. Have their voices been heard , are they onboard with the change ? I am asking as i do not know.

This issue is about control and following protocol if you are willing to give up both for a extra week of fishing god help us.

Maybe they will rethink the early start and close it two weeks early. Is that a problem ? If you don't cry foul now you cant cry then...

Yes I agree that this time the change is favored by most.

This time.

Not trying to offend just trying to think past the sugar coating.

[Hookey]

This is how it all started. " I HAVE READ the DNR has said " simply does not indicate a whole lot of open dialog between the DNR and those who legislate. Can anyone find facts to prove this is a joint decision ? Not a challenge , I would just like to be assured the DNR is onboard and not being pushed around.

DFLers push to move up fishing opener

by Tim Pugmire, Minnesota Public Radio

March 30, 2012

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Democrats in the House and Senate say they'll make a push this session to move up the start of the fishing season by one week.

The scheduled May 12 opener falls again this year on the same weekend as Mothers' Day, which can be a point of contention for some families.

DFL Senate Minority Leader Tom Bakk of Cook said he thinks the 2012 legislative session has been a big disappointment with few accomplishments. Bakk said moving up the fishing opener would give Minnesotans something to feel good about.

"We have record ice outs in lakes all over this state," he said. "I've read the DNR has said that the fish spawn this year is as much as a month ahead of normal. There is absolutely no reason that this season can't be moved up by one week."

Bakk said the change would benefit state tourism after a poor winter for recreation. The proposal is expected to come up when the game and fish bills are debated.

[Big Tom]

This is how it all started. " I HAVE READ the DNR has said " simply does not indicate a whole lot of open dialog between the DNR and those who legislate. Can anyone find facts to prove this is a joint decision ? Not a challenge , I would just like to be assured the DNR is onboard and not being pushed around.

Do an on-line search for "early minnesota fishing opener + dnr"

Seems like the comments run from the Fisheries Chief believing it's fine as it is now and has been since 1948 to we're studying the biological impacts to we have have conerns on Mille Lacs etc.

Given what this legislature has been able to accomplish this session, I'd wager it doesn't get done anyway. I'd also be shocked if inclusion of this shift in the opener was done with any involvement from the DNR.

It has provided some entertainment on this forum at least either way.

[Down Deep]

[quote name='FatTireGiven what this legislature has been able to accomplish this session' date=' I'd wager it doesn't get done anyway. I'd also be shocked if inclusion of this shift in the opener was done with any involvement from the DNR.

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I think you could double down on be right about nothing getting done on this.

[Hookey]

Thanks I will do that.