what happened to morals!!?

[Toba]

Maybe there needs to be an APP for morals. This may be the key. Maybe we could call in the I-morals. I don't know if I should share these great ideas.

[river rat316]

I posted it on the mirror in the bathroom. She didn't seem to have the same sense of humor about it that I had. Especially since, at the time, her income was about double mine. I had a good laugh when I read your post.

When we got married my wifes uncle gave that to her as a wedding gift, she was not very happy, it is still a running joke between us, every time one of us messes something up we always say go read the good wife book, or "jeez honey I didn't see that in the good wife book". Needless to say the good wife book met its demise in a campfire one night after a couple adult beverages.

As far as having respect for the outdoors, its generational imho, you were either taught to respect nature or not. My dad always emphasized respect for others and nature itself, whether it was only shooting what you were going to eat, only keeping what you were going to clean, following fish and game laws, and (most importantly in his book) packing out what you brought in. The one thing you can do to ensure that there will still be some of us who respect the outdoors is teach your kids the same thing you were taught, at least it is passed on to someone then. There is also nothing wrong with teaching those around you to show a little respect, you don't have to go overboard but passing on a little knowledge is never a bad thing!

[RangeFishing]

Great thread. I will be 30 tomorrow.

Awesome thread actually! Oh and Ill be 31 tomorrow! Happy Bday

[KrabbyPatties]

Crazy thread--full of ~30 year olds! I'll go on record saying I just turned 34 the other day. I get tired of disrespectful behavior out there as well.

It's the curse of being an introvert. We're more 'sensitive' to that stuff.

[fishersofmen]

Crazy thread--full of ~30 year olds! I'll go on record saying I just turned 34 the other day. I get tired of disrespectful behavior out there as well.

It's the curse of being an introvert. We're more 'sensitive' to that stuff.

I turned 34 two months ago, and am an introvert as well. Weird.

[hanson]

Interesting thread and I think there are a few different aspects to this...

- One is what ice fishing is to people. Lot of folks think ice fishing is about sitting in a shanty drinking beer, getting drunk, not catching fish, and getting away. This isn't a new idea, been around for a LONG time. I've been an avid icefisherman for a long time, this is what most of my co-workers, acquaintances, friends around me think I do when I icefish. When I show them what I catch and how I do it, they are shocked. For one reason or another, lot of folks think this is what icefishing is and perpetuate and embrace this stereotype when they come into the sport.

- Age is completely irrelevant to this discussion IMO. You have your bad apples through the entire age range, they just violate differently. Lot of 50-60 year olds tagged every year for filling freezers.

I'm 33 years old now. Been a very active member of this HSOforum for over 10 years. Pro Staffed for this HSOforum over half those years helping folks, sharing tips and info, organizing get-togethers, etc.

Way back when, I remember a young kid that went by the screen name MJ5. Full of enthusiasm and an awesome fisherman. Posted like crazy and helped everyone. You'd know him now by the name Matt Johnson.

There are some very young people that bring freshness and enthusiasm to our outdoors sports. They are out there and are many more than you'd probably think.

- Bottom line to the OP is if all of your friends in this sport are bad apples, you have to start fishing in a new sea (find new friends). Over time, the forum here is a good place to meet them. Plenty of other places as well cause there are a lot of good folks around, you just have to look in the right places.

[Jim Almquist]

Excellent reply Chris!!!!!

Could not have said it better myself!!

[TruthWalleyes]

I have thanked my parents many times for enstilling the values on me that i cherrish today. I'm 27, fished 110 days last year, hunted deer for a month... I'm a smoker, and haven't dropped a cigarrette on the ground in over a year. I pick up others trash, generally fish by myself and enjoy doing so mostly because i like the peace and quiet and am a run n gun ice fisherman. In the soft water months i also like to fish by myself as i can sit in my boat for 30hrs without a bite and call it a good day. I do my part in sharing my values with my daughter, but unfortunately i only get to share those values with her 5 times a year as she is living 1000 miles from me the last two years; that will humble a father and make you cherish every moment you spend with your child. To the OP, your not the only one with your great values, there are lots of great people on this HSOforum, and in the outdoors in general. Sounds like your grandpa was a good man!

[icecold]

Like Crocidile Dundee said in the movie {its just a bunch of kids havin fun]

[Hawg]

I was just thinking how this all relates to portable guys and permy guys. 99% of the creeps that move their portables so close you can't put out a tip up or park your car are usually very young. Hmmmmmmm

[BigDogRob]

Hawg, I have seen this go the exact opposite before. I watched a guy with a portable all set up and a guy with a "big" wheel house pulled right up to the back of his shack where he couldn't even flip it backwards to open it without having it lay on the hood of the truck. That would tick me off. The two got into it a couple minutes and the guy with the portable packed his stuff up which I thought was dumb, and then the guy pulled his porty and atv about 30' away and got off his ATV and proceeded to start punching holes right up tight to his truck wheels...lol I never laughed so hard. The guy with his perm quickly cranked up and moved. chalk one up to the little guy. He was lucky he didn't get his clock cleaned at nearly half his size.

[griff321]

I was just thinking how this all relates to portable guys and permy guys. 99% of the creeps that move their portables so close you can't put out a tip up or park your car are usually very young. Hmmmmmmm

Permies being towed up and dropped so close a guy couldn't even hitch up his house and move is one thing, but I don't see any problem with portables being dropped next to a shack for a couple hours.

I don't think that a person has a right to the lake for 50yds around him because he can drop a house on a hot spot for the entire season. Like peoples opinion on the quality of morals today, your millage may vary.

[cavalierowner]

Regulations say you have to be minimum 10' away from another shelter. It's a shame there has to be a regulation like this because it should be just common courtesy to give another guy at least a little breathing room. My own personal rule is no closer than about 25'.

[Hawg]

Griff, you 30?

[griff321]

Griff, you 30?

Nope, under.

[TomWehler]

At 56 I find this thread very uplifting....makes me smile inside.

Feel I would enjoy fishen with all of you, soft or hard water.

Lots of good stuff said....totaly agree being a leader or setting example is great.

This stuff dose rub off on people....just not all.

Why would someone want to fish 10 feet away from one nuther...well unless they was best buds, dating or together or SEXY PLAYBOY BUNNYS needed your expertise?

Met my now wife in 1990 an she told me about a year later one reason she knew I was a good guy right off was as we walked to our trucks after our 1st date she noticed I stooped an picked up some crushed cans an fast food bags in parking lot an toss in truck an also did same when took her on her first ice fishen trip Chisago Narrows 1st ice week later. No grumble or kick it aside just grab an go shaking my head.

Surprised me as it is just something I have always done any time I see that type garbage laying round. Plus I'm ever so handsome how could she not like what I got going eh!!

Was always taught if it is on the floor or ground an don't belong..PICK IT UP..no have to ask why it is there, just do it.

Step dad had BIG HANDS & BOOTS an knew where to Park them so I learned FAST. Taught Nature stuff along the way by others also an have always been a guy who likes things simple an they way they were when I leave if not better.

Funny junk we do in life eh?

Well, things will never change totaly but feel it is up to US to do best we can an baby sit the others who for what ever reason ..DON"T GET IT.....for Natures sake...an there is KARMA.

Could go on an on but then you would have to pay KNOWING ME DUEz!

Great thread....PLEASE...Keep up the great things your all doing, no other reason needed except you knowing inside it is the right thing to do.

Your not alone out there.

Enjoy it all as IT DOES MATTER.

If you see me round Chisago lakes area in winter or on Lake Vermilion open water...be sure to introduce yerselfs as it would be my pleasure to know each an every one of you guys / gals.

Thanks for doing what you do an just being you.

Keep on rocken!

Tommy

AKA>> Musky Tom

[Toba]

Last year on a lake by cold spring I had a guy probably in his 40's set up his portable so close to my Ford Ranger that I had to enter through the passenger side to leave. Before I left I asked him if he had seen a black ford ranger around because I couldn't find my truck. No answer and I'm guessing nobody home anyway. I'm just glad I had a bench seat in the ranger. You have to laugh at some of this stuff. You can't make it up.

[BigDogRob]

You have to laugh at some of this stuff. You can't make it up.

+1

There are definately all kinds of people in this world.

[Juneau4]

90% of people are great

5% of people are ah--

the rest are (insert word) and it makes no difference what the age is.

[marshmallow]

Good Posting's Folks .. The Two Guy's I Fish With Could Use A Dose Of This Post .. But They Don't Have Computers .. They Have Access.. Better Throttle Back Before A Couple Well Known " Brat Internet Bullies " Infect My post .. Go Fetch The Ball !!

[Beast26]

My you will find good and bad people in every generation. The difference between the good and bad usually comes from difference in the upbringing of the person. Sure their are exceptions to the rule. Most of us who post in here had someone, in my case my father, teach us how to be good men/women and we learned a lot from them. We are also the types that will pass those same learnings onto our own children. Although my dad passed away 5 years ago I still try to follow in his footsteps and often ask myself "what would dad do". When it comes to fishing I usually do it alone now because my old fishing partner isn't around and my daughter is too young to tag along. Plus I like the quiet and peacefullness of having "me time". It doesn't bother me that other go out on the lake just to drink...a lot of us did that when kids including me. I don't do it now unless we take the wheel house but even then I manage to fish pretty hard. I am good at multi tasking. lol

BTW - 33 Yrs Old Intravert