zepman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Are without a doubt the worst trio of LB's in football. EJ is done...can't cover anyone and is not making any plays in the running game. If he does, it's 8 yards down the field.His brother has no business even being on the field...he's a chaser...not a playmaker.Greenway makes absolutely no big plays...zero. His stats may look good at the end of the game but he, like EJ, is making all his tackles 8 yards down the field. Does Kevin Williams even play for us anymore? He went from dominant to invisible in the span of two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It's not any worse than our cornerbacks and safeties making plays 15-20 yards down field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizrunner Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It's not any worse than our cornerbacks and safeties making plays 15-20 yards down field. or at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratosman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Does Kevin Williams even play for us anymore? He went from dominant to invisible in the span of two years. Pat Williams made him look better than he is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketmouth64 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yup, our defense is not good. Williams is playing like an average player(has he made any impact?), LB's are nonexistent, and our secondary is just awful. Griffin can't keep up with anyone, Cook can't keep out of trouble away from the field, our safeties have no clue what to do. I'm surprised other teams haven't figured out start throwing in the middle right away. I think next week Smith will torch us like he has before, and Newton might run close for 100. Maybe Vikes should look at bringing back some veterans like Williams, Sharper, Leber, and call Benny Sapp. There's enough bad players they could cut to make room. Maybe a little leadership on the field will get other players into position. Pretty bad when Winfield is the only secondary player(including LB's) that teams need to worry about and Jared on the line. That's 2 out of 11 players and one is injured. To my surprise, the coaching of these players haven't been good either. Singletary hasn't made an impact, and the d-coordinator isn't making good adjustments(maybe because lack of playmakers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Singletary hasn't made an impact, and the d-coordinator isn't making good adjustments(maybe because lack of playmakers).And there it is. Great coaches can get good play out of mediocre players, but that's a rare quality. Good coaches can't turn nothing into something and that's the problem with the Viking's defense right now. Jared Allen = playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Our LB's have never been good at covering, EJ has been one of the worst in the league at that since day 1.Our defense is not good enough to hang with the high powered offenses, especially with all our injuries. This is the worst year for injuries ever, even fantasy sucks because of all the injuries, lockouts are for the birds.Winfield is our best corner but he hasn't been playing and he has never been a good cover corner anyway, Cook was out, Griffen is coming off multiple injuries, we all knew how junk the safety play was going to be this year already.Kevin hasn't been the same since he had to stop taking steriods lol. Pretty sure he has like 1 sack since the star caps incident. He gets owned almost every play, he has 0 penetration.Jared and Robison seem to be the only players on defense that feel like showing up to play ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 If the Vikes CBs and safeties could play tighter coverage instead of the soft 10-15 yards at the snap of the ball, Allen would have atleast 16 sacks by now. The opposing quarterbacks don't have to hang onto the ball when their receivers are open all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 True, but the Vikings KNEW that their secondary (comprised of backups) were overmatched by the Packers wide receivers. They waived the white flag, gave up the short throws, and limited the big plays to one - the Jennings catch which was an error versus a scheme problem. So playing that soft coverage actually kept the Vikings in the game. I don't know many football fans that would accept a straight-faced argument that the Vikings' secondary could have matched straight up with the Pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 If the Vikes CBs and safeties could play tighter coverage instead of the soft 10-15 yards at the snap of the ball, Allen would have atleast 16 sacks by now. The Pack would have scored 60 if they had done that, Rogers would have just chucked it deep about every other play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The Pack would have scored 60 if they had done that, Rogers would have just chucked it deep about every other play. The Pack knew they were up against a pathetic Vikings team. They could've scored a lot more than they did, if they wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleFloyd Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think the Packers were holding back a bit so they could use some of their stuff at home and get a home town blowout. Our LB's don't have the speed that we need to play in the cover 2 defense. We also don't have the speed in the secondary and that lack of speed from the back 7 makes the holes in the zones so big that most teams can exploit them at will. If we kept the scheme but upgraded the speed at every position on the back 7 the defense would look much different. Also, having the option of being able to use a CB to cover the premier WR's mano-e-manowould certainly take the pressure off of the rest of the defense. This soft zone coverage is brutal to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 the Jennings catch which was an error versus a scheme problem. MAN did that safety bite hard on the play action, our CB let Jennings go because he thought he had help over the top, to bad that help was already running full bore toward the line to stop the run lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Actually it wasn't a play action, A-Rodge was just rolling out and the safety ran in because he thought he was gonna run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Partly right. It was not a play action but Rodgers wasn't threatening to run. As Rodgers rolled to the right, Abdullah saw Driver and Finley in front of him and bit on Rodger's pump-fake to Finley. When he came down and abandoned his responsibility in the deep, Rodgers had a relatively easy pass to Jennings for a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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