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[CJH]

Wow..........

[flipper]

It is ILLEGAL dude. PERIOD.........

So are rape and assault.

[zamboni]

So are rape and assault.

I know that, we all do. Please elaborate.

[creepworm]

I can't speak for flipper here, but I take his comment as meaning that professional football players have raped (Roethlisberger?) and assaulted (Cedric Benson, Vince Young, and countless others) and you have not stated that you have a problem with them being in the league. If every player that committed a crime was instantly out of the league, I might have a chance to make a team.

[SledNeck]

So it is only bad if he killed a dog like the one in your pic, Sled? When this all came out, you were literally OK with it because his crime involved pit bulls.

The dogs were his property. He can do whatever he wants with them IMO. He knew the consequences and he paid big time for them

[Steve Foss]

You know, it's interesting. Thousands of years ago it appears many human cultures used dogs for work and as food. If a dog did not work, was disobedient or as much as snapped at a person, it was a dead dog. As society has kept evolving, the more urban civilizations have brought dogs nearer and nearer to their hearts, and eventually have crafted laws to protect dogs from cruelty.

But there remain cultures in which dogs are merely beasts of burden to be cast aside or killed when they are no longer useful, and there remain many people in our own culture who feel the same.

And even quite a few people who aren't cruel to dogs themselves still believe that what a dog owner does to his/her own property is not to be infringed upon.

Humans are . . . well . . . interesting.

Hey, I hear they are playing more football this week. I got something that'll urinate off zamboni more than Vince Young. GO PACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

[zamboni]

He didn't pay enough. His brother did his crimes as well, and never got one paycheck from an NFL team, seems like a just punishment for #7 as well.

Hey Foss, remember a fella named Mark Chmura? ACQUITTED and never seen another NFL paycheck. Why? He was the best TE in the NFL at that time.

BTW, I started this thread because I was getting sick of hearing about Vicks return to Atlanta. My initial post made no mention of any sort of any dislike to him, but I am glad everyone has spun this thread to either love or hate for him. Kudos, we're all entitled to our own opinions!!

And GO PATS!! And bless Tom Brady this weekend, after my #1 pick went down for the rest of the season, Big Daddy needs the points!!

[topcat3820]

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The dogs were his property. He can do whatever he wants with them IMO.

Some people don't deserve to share the time we have on Earth with animals . Vick certainly didn't & with your attitude (unless you're just playing Devil's advocate like Steve, which I doubt), I'm pretty sure I know which way I'm leaning in your case... unfortunately for that good looking Lab in your avatar .

[Steve Foss]

He didn't pay enough. His brother did his crimes as well, and never got one paycheck from an NFL team, seems like a just punishment for #7 as well.

Hey Foss, remember a fella named Mark Chmura? ACQUITTED and never seen another NFL paycheck. Why? He was the best TE in the NFL at that time.

BTW, I started this thread because I was getting sick of hearing about Vicks return to Atlanta. My initial post made no mention of any sort of any dislike to him, but I am glad everyone has spun this thread to either love or hate for him. Kudos, we're all entitled to our own opinions!!

And GO PATS!! And bless Tom Brady this weekend, after my #1 pick went down for the rest of the season, Big Daddy needs the points!!

Your words come back upon themselves. Well, for a guy whose handle implies he spreads and sucks, I'm not surprised!

[FISHINGURU]

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[SledNeck]

Hey Foss, remember a fella named Mark Chmura? ACQUITTED and never seen another NFL paycheck. Why? He was the best TE in the NFL at that

[zamboni]

The way I remembered it, he was released and never played again after the trial. That was 12 years ago, guess the memory is the first thing to go.

[flipper]

It all depends on culture and your point of view. If you want to carry animal cruelty thoughts to an extreme you would have to include fishing, What kind of sicko would get joy out of hooking a poor fish and further delight in the runs and jumps that poor animal is making in trying to survive? This is how the PETA people feel about the sport so many of us love.

I would never do anything like that to a dog because I love my dogs. To say a person should not be able to persue his dreams because of a mistake he made is going too far in my opinion. If you don't like him, don't watch him.

[Scott K]

I think this thread is getting a little off topic. This is turning into a sillytown thread.

[flipper]

Sorry, I thought it started out as a sillytown type topic.

[Big Dave2]

It all depends on culture and your point of view. If you want to carry animal cruelty thoughts to an extreme you would have to include fishing, What kind of sicko would get joy out of hooking a poor fish and further delight in the runs and jumps that poor animal is making in trying to survive? This is how the PETA people feel about the sport so many of us love.

I would never do anything like that to a dog because I love my dogs. To say a person should not be able to persue his dreams because of a mistake he made is going too far in my opinion. If you don't like him, don't watch him.

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I completely agree. Some of us here seem to be mighty judgemental about the rights of animals when most all of us here either shoot animals with rifles, shotguns, or bows and arrows or we hook "innocent" worms, minnows or fish with a steel hook.

[zamboni]

We eat what we fish or hunt. Hunting with a weapon is a fast humane kill. And according to most, fish that are hooked don't feel it.

Drowning or hanging a dog, then burying it is not humane, and not even close to being the same as the sport of hunting or fishing.

[zamboni]

I forgot to mention the biggest difference- hunting and fishing is LEGAL

[FISHINGURU]

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[topcat3820]

We eat what we fish or hunt. Hunting with a weapon is a fast humane kill. And according to most, fish that are hooked don't feel it.

Drowning or hanging a dog, then burying it is not humane, and not even close to being the same as the sport of hunting or fishing.

Exactly, Zamboni... at least someone gets it .

For someone to try to justify this kind of behavior or even condone it by calling a dog "property" or comparing it to other "cultures" is just being a d-bag of the highest (lowest ) order! The "property" angle doesn't hold up in court after you beat your wife/kiddies & this isn't Pyongyang... thankfully on both accounts.

He's done nowhere near the time he should be "entitled" to. He should be "entitled" to work in a shelter for abused animals for the rest of his days, being tortured for every one of them... not making millions after his so-called "rehabilitation". End of rant & probably end of posts here .