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2011 Green Bay Packers, YODTT


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It's good when you can be 2-0 after two games in which you have significant defensive problems/lapses. As long as we can keep tightening up on defense, things look OK from here. smile

I was on the road all day yesterday and could only get the Vikings game on the radio. And man, they weren't very eager to share other football scores! frown

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I was very surprised by the way Newton played against our defense. I think that guy has all the tools to become a great QB in the future, I will be the first one to admit that I thought he would be a flop.

Kudos to our D tightening up in the redzone. Lets go into Chicago this week, pass the ball DOWN the field right away, wear out their defense and pick them apart. Get Cutler rattled early and corners, for gods sake, be aggressive, but cover up!

Sounds like Collins will be ok, up in the air if he will play this week. Scary feeling watching that yesterday.

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And man, they weren't very eager to share other football scores! frown
Not so at the Dome. They were sure to show replays of Cam Newton going on top of the Packers....all this while the Vikings were winning. When the tables turned for both teams the updates stopped. They only showed the Saints.

It's funny but what I see in Viking fans is the same as what you see from the Metrodome and the team itself. They take pure joy in seeing the other teams lose and that's it. One of my favorite things about going to Badger football games is when they announce all of the other scores. The stadium crowd cheers and groans with each announcement - good or bad. The Vikings will only share when it makes their fan base feel good.

Another example: I get off the plane four weeks ago and am driving home on a Thursday night. I catch the second half of the Viking preseason game on the radio. Then they give scores from around the NFC North by saying that all NFC North teams are winning, dramatic pause...."Oh! The Packers are LOSING!" It's this type of 5th grade sports behavior that doesn't get me mad, but makes me appreciate the difference between how fans expect to get their sports in the two different states.

In either case, good game by the Pack. They went against two great quarterbacks in weeks 1 & 2...and Cam Newton is a great QB. It was plain as day. Sure he's got a ton to learn but man does he have a tool chest to play with. The difference between him and Breez is that the Saints had a running game and Breez looked off the dumb throws (which the Pack intercepted). Newton is going to be a force for years to come.

What I'd like to see this week is the Packers come out of their typical funk that the Bears are able to force upon our offense.

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I will agree that the broadcasters are biased, but I have been to several Packer games throughout the years, and they arent any different. So to point fingers to one team for something that is pretty much widespread is alienating the Vikings. I have also been to Chicago, and when they post up the Packers scores, you will get a huge cheer, or loud boo's, with the assistance of announcers. They all know how to work the crowds, you give them what makes them feel good, and it keeps them into the games.

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No, I will single out the Vikings

I will too. I have never had a good experience at the Dome, win or lose. I kinda do like the pathetic home showing of 50/50 Vikings/Packers fans. Been to Lambeau almost every year since I was 6, and there has been nothing like what you see at the Dome in the aspect of hating other teams. I'm not being bias either since I'm a Packers fan. It kinda got out of hand at Lambeau when Favre was with the Vikings, but not to the extreme of fans spitting at you, getting in your face cause you have a Packers jersey on, trying to pick a fight when all you want is a Dome dog? And I wouldnt consider myself a small guy either. To compare the Viking fans at the dome to the Packer fans at Lambeau is ridiculous. Are we arrogant, some may be? We have 13 Championships and the best rated Stadium/football atmosphere in the league. But its nothing like the Viking fans at the dome, where they have nothing better to do but hate every team that comes to play. And when they are down by a couple scores, it gets worse!! Hate to say it, but not many other team fans come to Lambeau and are just booed off by the experience, like you get at the Metrodome.

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Bad news for the Pack:

Collins lost for the season with neck injury

3:04 PM, Sep. 19, 2011

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Mike Vandermause

Packers safety Nick Collins will be lost for the season with the neck injury he suffered Sunday against Carolina, said Packers coach Mike McCarthy.

Collins returned to the Packers facility this afternoon and met with team doctors. McCarthy said he was informed of the seriousness of Collins’ injury just prior to his 3 p.m. press conference.

Collins is wearing a neck brace, according to McCarthy, and is walking around the team facility this afternoon. McCarthy said you would never know he has a serious injury.

McCarthy said the Packers would miss Collins, a three-time Pro Bowl player. He said he’s a player that’s all about football and someone else will have to step up.

Charlie Peprah replaced Collins in the lineup in the second half against the Panthers and is the likely starter for the remainder of the season.

Especially tough loss considering Williams is out.

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Yep. Collins is out. The difference last year was that Peprah was replacing a rookie who had yet to make his mark. This year he may be replacing a 3-time Pro Bowler, if they let him. I liked Peprah's play but the reality is that he's not fast....but he is a steady presence. I do like the rumors that I heard about Darren Sharper being interested in coming back to GB.

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Yep. Collins is out. The difference last year was that Peprah was replacing a rookie who had yet to make his mark. This year he may be replacing a 3-time Pro Bowler, if they let him.

So on the field there really is no difference. Peprah last year, Peprah this year. Last year worked out OK. smile

Yeah, I know, would've been better to keep Collins out there.

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We're arguing the minutia, I just think that at first glance there is a difference between Nick Collins starting at safety opposite Peprah versus Morgan Burnett. However, Burnett has loads of potential and like any young dude has some parts of his game to clean up. In the end, I don't think that this will hurt the Packers too much...if they can sign Sharper to a league minimum, offer some backup time and the chance at a ring, I would think that he'd be excited. Good insurance for the Pack

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thats a tough one to loose, hopefully the D can pull it all together and rattle Cutler

They were down 3.5 D starters against the Panthers. (Williams, Neal, Zombo, Collins-2nd Qtr) This team is good at overcoming adversity, and Williams should potentially be back next week, allowing Woodson to move back into the slot. Capers said they went into conservative mode (zone) when Collins got hurt. The loss of Neal and Zombo is definitely hurting the pass rush - part of the reason teams have been racking up passing yards against them.

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Yep. Collins is out. The difference last year was that Peprah was replacing a rookie who had yet to make his mark. This year he may be replacing a 3-time Pro Bowler, if they let him. I liked Peprah's play but the reality is that he's not fast....but he is a steady presence. I do like the rumors that I heard about Darren Sharper being interested in coming back to GB.

I really don't like that rumor. He takes way to many chances on the field and gets burned. I dont think he would fit well in our 3-4 scheme. Not to mention, I dont see TT bringing him in, he's going to work with what he already has. And to me, we have a lot of good players to fill for Collins. No doubt, we are going to miss him, mainly because of how well he plays the middle of the field. But we missed A LOT of players last year and had guys step up in a big way. I personally think they will move Woodson over to safety in different situations. I think he would excell a lot in the middle, he's not as fast as he was, but is very smart. Bears are going to test us in all aspects down the field with Collins out, I can see it already.

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Went to Lambeau for the first time last year, week 13, Green Bay was deadlocked with Chicago for the division. Chicago was behind Detroit all game, and we got all those Lions highlights during the commercial breaks and no mention that, ohbytheway, Chicago came back and won. They also showed Favre getting knocked out by Buffalo, which drew a huge cheer, and Jackson throwing a Pick-6 to the Bills. Never got another highlight of the game, just a posting with the rest of the scores that the Vikings won going away.

So as much as some would like to think it's only a Minnesota thing, the purple kool aid, delusional and homer fans, the biased announcers, the homer talk show radio hosts, it happens in all 50 states of the U.S. of A. You just gotta get out to see it, travel a little bit and get some culture smirk

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So as much as some would like to think it's only a Minnesota thing, the purple kool aid, delusional and homer fans, the biased announcers, the homer talk show radio hosts, it happens in all 50 states of the U.S. of A.

Just keep telling yourself that and eventually you'll believe it's true. "I'm not in Loserville USA anymore, I'm not in Loserville USA anymore..."

I think what you meant to say was that you need to leave the state for a while so that when you come back you'll realize just how pathetic it really is.

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Wasn't trying to needle you LMIT, or other Packer fans, I'm just telling it like it is. (But seriously where does your inferiority/superiority complex come from?)

I'll give a non-Packers example. Was in Denver listening to Sports Talk radio last month and 3 callers in a row wanted to ask the host why Tebow shouldn't start this year and how great the team was going to be, should be able to win the division, maybe make the AFC championship, etc. As an objective outsider, I actually asked one of my servers at a sports bar who he thought should start for the Broncos. He said Tebow! I couldn't believe it. The guy looks terrible in preseason games and projects as a third stringer at best and half the state wants to hand over the starting job!

If you believe provincialism only occurs in Minnesota, you don't get out much!

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