Coach Frazier??

[zamboni]

two games a starter does not make, and i will give webb a chance next season, however the vikes still might go for an established quarterback in a trade and webb would be the no. 2. i think frazier gets the job but maby a 2 year deal. i dont think the vike's would want to hire someone for big bucks and not have a season next year and be obligated to pay that salary. frazier will be a head coach next year on this team or another. i think the owners know this and will keep him here. good luck.

Webb would be a great #3. Put him in for occasional wildcat plays. Need to trade for a veteran and draft a stud- theres #1&2. If Webb is starter next year, this season will actually look good.

[thatoneguy]

If Webb was the #3 he couldn't take a snap in the wildcat or the starting qb could not return that game.

[thatoneguy]

You wait, I can see Favre coming back (if we actually have an offensive line that can protect someone) or McNabb. Our offensive line needs a major overhauling. I don't care who you put back there as a quarterback, if he gets protection anyone can throw the ball and I will still take Favre.

Someone please send the to The Common Man as an early nominee for Preposterous Statement of 2011.

[reinhard1]

i dont think anyone projects webb as a starter yet. i think once he gets used to the nfl and gets experience he has the potential as a bonifide starter. like i said, the vikes will trade for a starter but to dissmiss webb as a quarterback this early, with his talents is a mistake. he has shown me in a couple of games that he is a better talent than jackson ever was throughout his time with the vike's. good luck.

[zamboni]

If Webb was the #3 he couldn't take a snap in the wildcat or the starting qb could not return that game.

There are ways around that. Make him #3 or 4 WR, and #3 emergency QB. Like Camarillo. Bending rules is what the NFL is all about

[zamboni]

i dont think anyone projects webb as a starter yet. i think once he gets used to the nfl and gets experience he has the potential as a bonifide starter. like i said, the vikes will trade for a starter but to dissmiss webb as a quarterback this early, with his talents is a mistake. he has shown me in a couple of games that he is a better talent than jackson ever was throughout his time with the vike's. good luck.

I don't think anyone is arguing that he has more talent than TJack. But that is very easy considering TJacks talent level was/is ZERO. Everyone arguing for Webb to get a chance than belittle Childress for drafting TJack should realize that making Webb a QB was a brainstorm of Childress's as well.

[reinhard1]

every coach makes mistakes and also gets some talent. good luck.

[FISHINGURU]

Everyone arguing for Webb to get a chance than belittle Childress for drafting TJack should realize that making Webb a QB was a brainstorm of Childress's as well.

The difference is we moved up in the 2nd round to draft Junkson when he was projected to be a 5th-6th rounder to be our future franchise QB, not only was he junk but we also lost those picks it costed us to move up.

Webb is a 6th rounder so it really doesn't matter if he pans out or not. He's just a gamble pick, he was only meant to be our #3 backup QB or a project Wr. Anything he does beyond that is a plus.

I'd rather us get a different QB but I think Webb would make a decent #2 backup, he's better then Junkson and as more upside. Maybe down the road when he learns the game better he can see if he can step up and take the job. If not no loss he's a 6th rounder, not a 2nd round buster you wasted picks and years on.

[zamboni]

I agree with that, but we better not settle on this guy being our #1- he isn't the answer. This season was absolutely dreadful and next season will be worse

[LMITOUT]

According to Kevin Seifert (ESPN), if the Rams win the Vikings will get the lucky #13 draft spot.

[LMITOUT]

How about Jeff Fisher?

[Stcloudangler]

I've got no problem with that.

Wish it wouldnt depend on the Lions though. That would be stupid. I honestly want them to lose the game, get in the top 10 for a pick.

Well they performed as they should have, good for them and us. A top 10 pick is exactly what we need along with some free agent drops and adds. The QB situation aside, this team will be real close to what they were 3 yrs ago when Junkson somehow led them to a 10-6 record.

[Shack]

I will say it again as Randy Shaver said this morning, a Frazier and Webb combo next season would make for a very long season.

So who won yesterday? I have yet to hear and actually forgot about the game. If we do not hear Frazier officially announced for the head coach position either today or tomorrow, we might still have a chance next season.

Start plucking away at the core of our situation and at least rule out the possibilities of a true curse against the Vikings. Frazier and Webb should be about #3 & #4 on list after those from the front office. Is T-Jack already gone?

[reinhard1]

i dont know how randy shaver can make a statement like that. even if frazier is the coach, does he realy think webb is automaticly the starting quarterback? i think they will go and trade for a veteran quarterback regardless who is the coach. webb started the last two games because there wasn't anyone else on the team that could do it. he also played because he will be part of the vikings future as a quarterback in my opinion. this gave him an oppertunity to gain some experience and gave the coaches a chance to look at his playing abbilities. they will also draft a quarterback for #3 but probalbly not in the first round. good luck.

[Surface Tension]

Vikes lost.

Missed tackles.

The right corner looked like a school girl.

Nate B was hot, wish we still had him.

If Farve couldn't find open receivers down the field how is Webb supposed to.

Webb got pressured, no surprise there, good thing he can run.

AP up the middle did not work. No surprise there.

I may have fallen asleep but didn't we have one time out left?

46 seconds ticking way.

[Surface Tension]

Lets give Webb sometime with a QB coach, go through training camp taking snaps then see what we have.

[gregg52]

ya everybody says he's not ready

and i agree after yesterday

but whats the difference if you bring in some rookie

or give him the shot

but i spose they will macab or someone in here

which i think is the wrong thing to do

get somebody for the next 6-7 yrs anyway

[Shack]

Thanks Frank. It was total coach talk this morning on the radio and I did not have time to check into it.

Yeah Randy Shaver sounded pretty bleak on Frazier getting the call that he is the guy and said the same things as others about Webb needing some time to learn, but is the Vikings and its fan base ready for someone who is unproven to run an entire season? IMO we are past the point of taking long shots and finding the diamond in the rough. I know we had Favre, but it seems like the last 10-15 years it is either bring in the un-known rookie or the guy who has his foot in the door on his first year of retirement. Probably the reason we are in this situation. I am not talking a Sage thing either where he has 10 years in the league and is still trying to prove himself. Hate to say it but we lost out on the Vick Pick big time.

[pike doctor]

Hate to say it but we lost out on the Vick Pick big time.

I would rather go 0-16 than to have that scumbag Vick QBing this team. And as far as Randy Shaver, what the hell does he know about next year. I am pretty sure that Frazier wants nothing to do with Webb as the QB. He had no other option right now. Ziggy will do something to try and bring a QB in here for Frazier. And lets not forget that our guy were pretty beat up this year. If we get some guys healthy, improve on the O-line and get a third down back I fully expect to win the division next year. We were only a couple of bad calls, replays, and plays away from being a 10-6 team this year.

Something that I noticed we cut down on with Frazier was the stupid penalties. We do that, run the ball, decrease turnovers and play solid D next year and we will be ok.

[TR21HP]

The interim tag will be removed and Frazier will be named head coach of the Vikes today at 4pm. News conference scheduled.

[Shack]

Yep, you paint a clear picture of the usual here in MN. Like a fish swimming upstream in a dry up creek, the saga pushes on:

2010: Chilly Fired

2011: Frazier Hired as Head Coach. Webb starting OB as Frazier's step-child QB. Full season of play and strong run two games into playoffs, we lose on our third.

2012 Frazier head coaching & Webb starting QB. 3 weeks into the season Webb does not win a game. Frazier bows to media and fan base pressure, benches Webb for some second string lifer who ten years after the fact has found himself trying his hand with Vikings as a back-up. The switch is made, couple wins are had and a couple losses. Some lower body issue causes this QB not to play so Webb is back on the field. Second game of play offs we loose by two points in a fourth quarter close game.

2013: Frazier still head coach and some question about if Webb is starting or not. Webb starts and gets injured two games into the season and the replace back-up to last years back up comes in and takes us to a Div win. but sadly has a "bad" game on game one of the play-offs.

2014: Frazier still head coach and Webb has been the talk after not playing for almost two full seasons. Given the new trend set by Brett Favre in 2009, we find Terry Bradshaw as our starter for the season. We go deep in the playoffs but loose one game before our name is on the World Championship match-up bracket. Bradshaw goes down and surgery is performed during the off season.

2015: Frazier still head coach and Webb is somewhere on the bench. Terry Bradshaw is once again starter and due to a verbal halftime confrontation with a female reporter, Bradshaw is fearing a suspension.Webb is called in and ready to go, but the third string back-up threw a nice pass during pre-season. The fans remember and liked this. They want him, but Frazier would like to stick with the roster. Fans turn on Frazier and he is fired on the spot.

2016: Zigi Wilf trying to hold on to his franchise becomes head coach and hires the third string from the previous year as the starter because he also loved the throw he did the previous season. The Vikings go 0-18 this season. The players lost the the Union battle back in 2011 and were made to play an extra two regulation games per season under the new contract. Wild sells the Vikings after the season end and a new owner starts planning for 2017.

Mean while in 2016, Micheal Vick wins his second Super Bowl ring and the dark cloud that covered him is gone as Hall of Fame talk is had. Vick, during a Bob Costas interview, openly giggles while trying to hold back when the Vikings are brought up.

[Stratosman]

Wow holy free time....

Regardless on anyone's opinions, uncluding mine, it's hard to dispute that we are in need of alot of help in alot of positions, and I don't think that it's possible to fill all the voids in one offseason....

But hey, it's a game of ups and downs and that's part of the fun, the anticipation of next year is the only thing Vikes fans can rally around anyway...

[pike doctor]

Pass me some of what your smoking. Frazier wants nothing to do with Joe Webb as the QB so I dont know why you bring it up. You and Joe Webb are the only two people in MN that think he should start.

I guess we should not hire Frazier either. After all he was part of the Childress squad. But, by that way of thinking that would make Brian Billick, Tony Dungy, and Mike Tomlin losers too since they were coordinators under losers Green and Tice. None of them should have been given a shot either. Nevermind that they went on to win Superbowls, and contiuously pumped out playoff teams. And Billick did it with Trent Dilfer of all losers at QB.

Frazier knows defense, and we are not far from having dominating run game again. Thats what you need to win in this league. Look at the teams in the playoffs this year. Run the ball, play defense and you win. Atlanta, Jets, Steelers, Ravens. I would take Tavaris Junkson over Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez.

So to recap. Webb WILL NOT be the QB next year, nor does anyone want him to be. He was the only option left this year. Frazier has earned a shot. The players respect him, and it will be an easy transition for them. We need to run the ball next year first and pass second. We have one of the best backs ever for Godsakes.

[Shack]

Has he openly said he wants nothing to do with Webb? Or is this another crystal ball fact? How do you guys know this with who playing yesterday? No passing needed. You guys blow enough for everyone.

Free Time? A Vikings fan has nothing but during this time of year.

[reinhard1]

now it's head coach frazier. the proccess of staff begins and selecting players for next years team. drafts [i hear we get the 12th ist round pick}, trades, free agent signings ect. this webb talk is redicules. will he or will he not be a starting qb for the vikes will be decided after training camp with other qb's in competition just like every other player. the only position i see as for sure is running back and peterson has that. i think frazier is a good choice and will get results. good luck.