2010 Catfish Insider?

[MinnesnowtaWild]

Anyone have any information about a 2010 In-Fisherman Catfish Insider?

I haven't heard anything about it and haven't seen anything about it from In-Fisherman. Are they even making one this year or are they going to quit doing the Insider?

I am really hoping there is one either out already or on the way. I enjoy reading them and collecting them. If anyone has old issues that you don't want anymore I would be willing to buy them.

[DTro]

I still would buy one, but I kind of gave up last year when we all had to basically beg and jump though hoops just to try and get them on the shelves and find one.

[Larry FlatCaster]

I was looking last week. They have every other species for the specialty edition but no CATS...

Makes you wonder if there will be one this year.

[Shack]

Ya, last year I kind of had the Little Orphan Annie decoder ring experience similar to the one in Christmas Story:

This year I do not think I will buy one. Just have no drive to flip-flop all over this rag when it has no sustenance.

[The J-Man!]

This year I do not think I will buy one. Just have no drive to flip-flop all over this rag when it has no sustenance.

Agreed. I have bought them for years, but have found there is way more information and sustenance on this HSOforum and others. Plus they get thinner every year and seem to go up a little in price.

I can't blame anyone for purchasing though. Who doesn't love to look at pictures and read stories of big catfish!

[Surreal Deal]

It must be hard for them to put out a legitimate magazine for a species that simply does not have the market behind it that Bass, Walleyes and Muskies do. And the more sponsors they do find, the more the catfish guys boo them for "Going electric."

I'll buy one because it is still a manageable price for me. I can't blame you guys for not wanting to any more than I can blame In-Fisherman for "going electric." But you're right, I wish the thing was a little bigger.

[Shack]

Intermedia outdoors openly said that the Catfish Insider will not be going away any time soon. They will keep printing it but only when they see fit to do so. Electric, Manual, Mechanical or what ever I like reading about cats and products surrounding catfishing.

I just do not feel like pursuing something were the originator openly admits "It is the bottom of the barrel" when it comes to importance. Kind of makes feel like a looser.

[Surreal Deal]

I just do not feel like pursuing something were the originator openly admits "It is the bottom of the barrel" when it comes to importance.

[nsnutter]

Catfishermen are the underdogs of the angling world - Hated by Bass fishermen, ridiculed by Walleye fishermen, scorned by Muskie fishermen... The only ones who'll hang out with us are our weird cousins the Rough fishermen ...And we use their target species as bait!

Wow, that is awesome signature material right there! haha well said SD well said!!!

I am hoping that they put out an insider this year as well ... I would love to add another to my collection. Fun to browse through.

[DTro]

Also remember that whoever is publishing, printing, and even writing those articles depend on $ from the ads/sponsors to keep things afloat. It has nothing to do with then wanting to put out a quality piece. I bet Stange would love to do more Catfish stuff, but the bottom line overrides him.

Print media is going the way of albums, 8-Tracks, and cassettes. Which is sad, because you really can’t replace the physical characteristics of a good old magazine.

[nsnutter]

Also remember that whoever is publishing, printing, and even writing those articles depend on $ from the ads/sponsors to keep things afloat. It has nothing to do with then wanting to put out a quality piece. I bet Stange would love to do more Catfish stuff, but the bottom line overrides him.

Print media is going the way of albums, 8-Tracks, and cassettes. Which is sad, because you really can’t replace the physical characteristics of a good old magazine.

I agree ... nothing can replace the excitement of getting a new issue of In-Fisherman, Field 'n Stream, Outdoor Life in the mail and tearing into it, and having it years from now to reread and share with others. The internet is wonderful ... but some things in life need to stay the same as they used to.

[mplspug]

I am sure they will throw together a magazine this year of recycled articles from the last 10 years. I mean, how hard can that be? Really looking forward to the 1 flathead article, 2 channel articles and 10 blue articles.

[Surreal Deal]

Also remember that whoever is publishing, printing, and even writing those articles depend on $ from the ads/sponsors to keep things afloat. It has nothing to do with then wanting to put out a quality piece. I bet Stange would love to do more Catfish stuff, but the bottom line overrides him.

I agree, that's more or less what I was getting at earlier when I referred to "going electric" - i.e., getting commercialized. If they cannot make the money at the newsstands, they need to get it from advertising.

Notoriously frugal, Catfishermen are a tougher market to sell to than other types of sport fish. Catfish don't know or care how much your stuff costs, or whether you're using the "right" kind of rod & reel!

All that to say that if the newsstand performance is low, and advertisers cannot get a good return on their investment, then the magazine will eventually go the way of the 8-Track

[Surreal Deal]

Really looking forward to the 1 flathead article, 2 channel articles and 10 blue articles.

The distribution seems that way doesn't it? But truth be told I am quite envious of our neighbors to the south who have blues swimming in their waters. I'd love to get down south and fish for blues!

[Shack]

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Notoriously frugal, Catfishermen are a tougher market to sell to than other types of sport fish.

I beg to differ SD Actually out of all the personal fisher people I know, the cat guys who are dedicated have some of the most money wrapped up into what they love verses even the Bass guys I know.

I would say 99.8% of the guys I know who fish for other species like panfish, walleye, and bass primarily/exclusively have a basic rod & reel, 16' Lund, 30hp Evenrude, bait bucket and a box of jigs and sinkers They have more wrapped up in subscriptions than what they have invested into their tackle box. Some of the regulars here in the cat forum are fishing with $200+ worth of rod & reel and own many.

Any new trick/gimmick passes through the hands at one point or another of a good cat guy. Just try and find those rattle bobbers Dtro uses at any location right now.

[Toad]

Just saw copies of the Catfish In-Sider Guide a week or so ago. Lots of great info and little nuggets inside. Think you guys might like what you see this year. As for me, I'm just glad that In-Fish continues to publish this magazine, despite the lack of advertising and "respect" from the fishing industry mainstream. It's in no small part because the writers really do care about catfish and catfishing, and have one heck of a lot of fun writing about it.

As for the comments on "recycled" material, I have to disagree-- can't recall ever reading much about spoon weights, crankbaits and spoons for flatheads, Great Lakes trolling, etc., anywhere else, including the internet.

Got to mention, too, an awesome cutbait cooler (page 58) we used the past few years-- the Keep Kool. You guys have got to check these things out. Best bait cooler I've used yet.

[DTro]

Thanks for the info Toad, I know your information is reliable. Good to know there was one published this year.

I will hope to see one out there somewhere. I think I had to go on a wild goose chase last year to find one, and now that I think about it, I never did find one.

Not sure if the Great Lakes trolling will be a tactic for me though.

[Surreal Deal]

Thanks Toad, any relation to Otis?

[Surreal Deal]

@ Shack: I know what you are getting at, there certainly are shiny toys out there for Catfishermen just like there are for anglers who target other species. I am not one of these toy collectors. My rod cost $25, my reel I already had and I've spent less than $100 in three years on terminal tackle and line. Whenever possible I catch my own bait.

I don't think that I'm too different than most other guys out on the river.

If your reasoning held true then the Saturday morning airwaves would be flooded with ads for stink bait and jet boats, the Catfish Insider would be a monthly publication, and Gander Mountain would dedicate more than a measly 6' shelf to Cat gear.

The money is in Bass Walleye and Muskie, so that's where the media attention goes. Quite frankly I am happy that Catfishing doesn't get that kind of attention, because I think that all the gizmo crazes and keeping up with the Joneses breeds a certain degree of discontentment that takes away from the angling experience.

BTW, I know those guys with the 16' Lunds and the 30 Hp Evinrudes all too well, because I am one of them. Except my Evinrude is a 25 Hp -- it was new when Jimmy Carter was in office! And as for my Lund, well, we could call it the "Watergate" because it came out the same year (1972).

[Shack]

Honestly the only interesting thing I picked up on and still remember from last years issue was the chart that compared "up to" the size baitfish a flathead could consume in comparison to their size.

If any of you remember (I know you guys do) but I had some pretty good conversations with people at Intermedia Outdoors last year involving the release of the Catfish Insider. They know and can say for certain when the Bass, Walleye, & Pike will be on the B-Dalton book shelves. Catfish Insider, no one knows anything or just guesses. Basically they tell you it will be on the shelves between March 2010 & May 2010. Once again I was told by the marketing manager that as long as IO publishes the Insider series of magazines they will have a catfish edition. This is my guess from what I picked up on, but it sounded they "had" to do it because of some guarantee to do it for publishing reasons. I can almost say for certain that they do "not" still make the CI edition with dedicated readers in-mind This is impression I picked up on when talking to the 3 or 4 individuals from IO last year. For all we know the "fly fishing for channels" article was one of the articles Doug "had" to do after the more popular species articles met the dead line.

I guess who really cares anyways. If I see one and feel like it, I will pick one up. I am darn sure not going out of my way, as Intermedia Outdoors does not go out of their way to ensure a firm date Catfish Insider will be on the shelves.

[Surreal Deal]

Thanks for the footwork chasing down IO, Shackbash!

I still remember the casting article and enjoyed the 'catpacking' article from lat year's edition. I also enjoyed the rod review, it helped me in deciding on a Cabelas King Kat rod instead of something a lot more expensive that I would not have been any happier with.

[Shack]

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BTW, I know those guys with the 16' Lunds and the 30 Hp Evinrudes all too well, because I am one of them. Except my Evinrude is a 25 Hp

SD certainly nothing wrong with that boat and a very good cat cruiser I might add.

Short of some staff I know from HSO, the "high dollar" rigs I have fished in and met the owners of are cat guys. Steve D ranks at the top. Then you got Eddy, Kyle, John, Papa, Andy, and I have heard rumors of a couple new River Pro's being purchased. Plus others who do not even come to mind at the moment.

Also thanks Toad for the update. I am just finding it harder to even spend the $5.00 or $8.00 for the issue when I know it is just something that has to be done. If it was a company that has hit hard times or someone spending his free time to get out a publication about catfish (truly showed focus on getting it out), I would buy 10 to do my part . Like I said, I am not going to go out of my way anymore to purchase something from a company that sure shows they do not go out of their way to get you the product.

Also IMO the Catfish Insider has no more and even possibly less info to provide than the cat forum here at HSO.

[Surreal Deal]

Also IMO the Catfish Insider has no more and even possibly less info to provide than the cat forum here at HSO.

...And in MY opinion the Catfish Insider has less info than Steve D all by himself, much less the rest of the forum!

[TruthWalleyes]

Well i'm not big spender when it comes to catfishing, I push my luck running a prop on the minnesota river...I'll become a big spender when i've got to replace the lower unit . I've got the 16' and 25hp evin. $20 rods, throw the cheap line away and replace with good line. Good hooks, Crappie bobbers , Weights, good swivels, and stinky bait!

Hopefully my most expensive rod will be a freebee when KOTC wraps up this fall! (wait, nothings free...we do spend a lot of money when the year is over!!) I do enjoy the "bottom feeder" catagory we get put in. No line at the ramps, No fighting over spots on the river... Just have to deal with those darn creatures that come out in the night to scare you

IMO, I personally wouldn't buy the magazine. I gain a lot of knowledge here, and on the river. So far, this is the best catfish fishing resource for the rivers i fish.

[hanson]

For what its worth, I've learned one heck of a lot about catfishing from older Cat-Insiders, the In-Fish books and videos, etc.

I'm probably not too far off by saying a lot of the knowledge in this forum has come from some of those sources over the years.

We've all learned from river rats who've been at it longer than I've been alive as well but I think us "newer" generation of cat guys, and anglers in general, are acquiring our knowledge from all sources available.

One thing the Catfish Insider has ALWAYS been good at is making you think "Why didn't I think of that?" or "Really?" or "I didn't know you can do that?" I've always enjoyed the approach/angle they take towards certain topics, its different. And thats what being a good writer is all about, or I should say thats what makes good media to me anyway.

As for this forum, I've read more about Monkies, Paintball, Slingshots, Samsquatch, and a Trestle in the last year than innovative catfishing techniques.