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.270 or 30.06 ???


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I also shoot a 270 WSM. Do you have any trouble with your bullets not holding together at short ranges? I seem to have problems with the bullets pretty much exploding and not exiting the deer when my shot is under 60 or 70 yards. I have had this problem with both 140 grain Nosler Accubonds and 150 grain Federal Fusion bullets. Just seems like they are too dang fast. Lethal on deer, but I'd like to know where all that lead goes! I'm thinking of taming down some handloads for the shorter ranges I deal with 99% of the time. I agree though, its a great caliber and a blast to shoot! Very expensive if you don't load your own.

Over the last 5 years I have shot quite a few deer at close range and no, I have not had that problem. I would expect that from the Fusions (cheap round) but not the Noslers. My bullet has always stayed intact. I have either shot the Winchester Supremes or hand load that my buddy put together for me.

There is something to be said about shooting a very popular load. If I ever had to run into town durring the season to by some bullets, I would'nt be able to find what I need.

And yes 270wsm rounds are expensive, ($40 box) but even if I shot a 270 or 30 06, I would be spending $30-$35 a box.

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Have had both guns and currently own a .270. Absolutely love this gun. Mine is a Winchester Model 70 and I have no worries about taking shots out to 250yds with it. Don't know if I would feel as confident with the 30-06, but I haven't shot an 06 as much. Buddy I hunt with has taken Elk, Deer and Moose with his 270 and never had any problems at all. We both shoot the Winchester Failsafe Rounds, which are a little more expensive, but worth the money in my opinion. My rifle shoots them very well, in tight groups, so I stick with them.

All that being said, I don't feel you can go wrong with either caliber. They are both awesome weapons and will get the job done on any big game. The ballistics aren't very much different, but a 270 is really a necked down 30-06, so that is to be expected. Like stated above, SHOT PLACEMENT is the key. Buy a good scope and take you time sighting the rifle in, and get good tight groupings. Remember that not every rifle will shoot the same ammunition in tight groups. For example....my Model 70 shoots Winchester ammo in good groups, but if I go to Federal or Remington ammo, I can't seem to get as tight of groups. So you might have to try a couple of different brands of ammo to get "dialed in". But good optics will make the rifle that much more lethal.

My next rifle will definately be the 270 WSM. Love that round, and since I am already paying 38 bucks a box for ammo, what 2 bucks more?

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i recently purchased a 300wsm and it is alot of gun for deer. i mainly bought it because i already have an 06 and wanted to switch up the pace. i really need to get it ported before i run more rounds through it she kicks like a mule. i like the sound of the 270short mag sounds like a nice round. as for putting down deer, i think you could smash a deer's skull with a cannonball and the thing would still find away to run 200 yards before tippin over

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Deets, I laughed over the cannonball comment. If you do get your 300 ported, I would make sure you always use hearing protection. I was at the range once with a guy with a big bore ported rifle and it literally took my breath away when he shot it and while I was walking behind him. He had earplugs in and noise canelling headphones on. He said he wears the headphones while hunting with it, it was that loud

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Either round will drop a moose with the right bullet. As mentioned, a bunch of calibers will get the job done for both species.

Now, your friend needs to step back and take a look at the bigger picture. He simply needs to convince the wife that a gun is a tool, and it takes muliple tools to complete any given task smile

Why have just an "ot six" when you can have a 270, 270wsm, .280, 30/06, 300 winmag and a 300wsm smile

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I bowhunt and so does a friend of mine but he wants to get back to Rifle hunting because he moved back up Nort eh. The type of hunting he would be doing is whitetail but he is going to put in for that Moose Hunt and wants something that would be sufficient to do both. Any suggestions or reccomendations would be appreciated. I am siding towards the .270 but he thinks the 30.06. So lets hear what you people think.

If it weren't for the moose portion of the equation, I'd say it doesn't matter which you choose. Since moose are involved, pick the ought-six. A great flat-shooting round in 165 grain for deer, and a great round for moose in 220 grain. Hard to beat an ought-six for all around shootability.

Or, if you are sure you won't have anything beyond 150-yard shots, you can always pick a 12-gauge slug gun. You mentioned he'd moved back up north. If that's the forest north, the the shotgun slug is a viable alternative. If it's the prairie north, it isn't.

The right shotgun slug/barrel is plenty accurate to 150 yards, especially scoped and using a 2 3/4 round instead of a 3-inch magnum (which doesn't pattern as accurately), and the slug has a LOT more knockdown power at those ranges than an ought-six.

Plus, it's just cool to tote around a piece of lead that big. Sort of like a modern day .45-70 govt. or .56 Hawken. winkwink

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.270 has always been my favorite deer riffle, just because thats what my uncle gave me when i was 13. I do fully beleave the .06 is a more capable deer weapon though, i mean i dont just beleave it, its probablly a fact. but as Foss says they are both fully capable deer weapons and thats what u wanted to know. But someone brought up the issue of moose, and if thats the fact id prolly go with a bigger caliber all together, even though both would kill a moose in most circumstances.

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a 270 is a awsome caliber and nothing wrong with it. BUT I personally would lean towards the .06 simply because it is one of the most versital calibers on the market. form prarrie doggs to moose it will get the job done.

There will always be an arguemnt witch gun is better or shoots flatter or more accurate but accuracy depends on the person shooting the gun. If you set the gun up for 300yrd shots and practice it will do it same goes for 100yrd shots. It all boils down to practice,practice,and more practice in order to have the confidence in a weapon.

good luck with what ever you choose.

I also agree with Steve Foss on the shotgun/slug deal.

I have shot a lot of deer with my 870 combo from 10yrds to 150yrds and no disapointment in pulling the trigger most deer are shot with in 100 yrds and closer on opening day.

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