FishingWebGuy Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I made a couple pounds of meat sticks about 2 weeks ago (cured, then dried). After they dried, I stored them in an air-tight container on the counter. Yesterday as I went to grab one I noticed quite a bit of mold growing. I didn't think cured meat was going to mold. Certainly before electricity the meat was cured and hung, right? Did the meat back then not mold or did they just scrape the mold off? or would they not mold if stored in open air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredd Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Did you wipe off the excess grease before storing and let the meat cool before storing? I keep my jerky in the fridge for upwards of a month after drying and have never had it show mold. I have not had any experience with sticks, so sorry don't know more here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishingWebGuy Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Fredd, no to both. I did wrap the sticks in paper towels though to absorb the grease but didn't actually wipe it off. So after storing in the fridge for a month you can store them on the counter and they don't grow mold? Or just while they are in the fridge they don't grow mold?I want to try an learn how to keep them without refrigeration or freezing -- if that's possible.Maybe they needed to dry longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike89 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Just because you made jerky does not mean it's shelf stable. Ph and moisture are the keys for that. what you should have done was place it inthe fridge. when you go to the meat shop, some are out and others are keep refridgerated. sorry about my spelling!!Always remember just because it's cured does not mean it's a shelf stable product. I do have a smoker and make these things, but I'm also food inspector.Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor_guy Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I always consider my h/m jerky and sticks to be perishable. Always into an air tight container, and into the fridge, or the beer fridge for easyer access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Two things cause mold: moisture and air. My guess would be that your jerky was not dry enough to store in anything less than a vacuum packed container.Also, mold grows quicker when it's stored in a moist place. So, you may want to rethink storing moist jerky in the refrigerator unless it's vacuumed sealed or thoroughly dried.Here's a tidbit from the AMA that you also want to think about:E.Coli can survive drying times of up to 10 hours and temperatures of up to 145 degrees F. It is recommended that venison being dried for jerky should be precooked to an internal temperature of at least 165 degrees F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Cured is a loose term. That Yard'O Beef sitting in the isle unrefrigerated at Wallmart is different then home made jerky. I'd refrigerate the motherload of jerky. Without refrigeration you'd be better off leaving it to the air in a cool dry place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishingWebGuy Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 ok, thanks for the info everyone. So how do I make it non shelf perishable? 100 years ago how did they smoke food and store it without refridgeration?Maybe the drying time needs to be longer? Maybe next time I'll try cold smoking them?Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandmannd Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Here's how I make mine in a dehydrator FWG.Once it's been dehydrated I put it on a paper towel, lay a paper towel on top and continue stacking until all the jerkey is on the towels. I then put them in the microwave with something heavey on top overnight. I take it off the towels in the morning and put it individual ziploc bags. I put some in an ice cream bucket and put in the freezer (I make 10+ lbs at a time). I keep about 2 lbs out and in the fridge. I will take one bag out at a time and take it to work or whatnot. I've had it last in that ziploc bag in my cube for 2 or 3 weeks with no mold.The only times I have had mold problems is if I didn't take the time to get all the grease off the meat after dehydrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishingWebGuy Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Thanks SandmanndI'll try an be more diligent about removing all grease next time and see if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crothmeier Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 i went through a whole roll of paper towels when i made my last jerkey, let them cool on the counter and bagged them and put into fridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike89 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 you are still asking for trouble in my thoughts. if you shelf stable you will need to really go further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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