Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
masterpuppet

will there be nascar?

Recommended Posts

I do not think it will fold, but it is a little interesting. The big 3 were told if they receive the "bailout" from the feds that there major sponsorship with Nascar will have to come to a halt.

With the new restrictions on testing next year I really think it is even going to seperate the field even more. Probably going to take the 1 and even 2 car teams right out of the mix.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldn't be suprised to see a spec engine if the manufacturers pull money out. That would be the easiest way to even the field and keep costs down for the teams.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They could go to a spec engine and end up like......ASA did, a booring series no one wanted to watch

I think they are already slowly becoming that. I know I watched far less races this year than I have have since I started watching about 10 years ago. When I do watch them I ussually can guarantee I will be taking a nap sometime during the race (except for short tracks, they still keep my interest). I thought COT was supposed to make the races more intersting, but I think they had the reverse affect. If something doesn't change I think many of the casual fans will loose complete interest and with the money involved in NASCAR today, they need those casual fans.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The only issue I see with a spec engine is they are usually more expensive when racing leaques go to them.

Interesting. Why would it become more expensive?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Technically they already have a "spec" engine. They have cube, compression,approved intakes, head design, and carb restrictions. The big cost or cheating for that matter is when a "crate" moter or a sealed engine is the rule like ASA did and died a slow death.

Even now with the different series that mandate a sealed /spec/crate engine, you can buy the cheater breakaway bolts for less than 300 bucks and do more of the little things to gain that 15-30 horse needed for the win.

Last year in Circle Track there was a open letter to the editor from Keith Dorton in regards to the crate/spec engines that shows that the spec engine was actually costing 10-15 grand more per year to maintain, because the parts HAD to be bought from one supplier, than building the same engine using whatever parts you choose to buy. They couldn't bore the blocks .010" oversize, or even put in a sleeve for that matter, so if you scored a cylinder wall, you had to throw everything away.

Sorry for the rambling, but I just don't care for spec engines. The biggest or best engine doesn't win everytime, it's the chassis and the driver that do.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I understand the engine they use now. I was refering to a sealed engine rule. The letter from Circle Track make sense though. NASCAR would just end up like IROC. Here's your car now you drive it and these guys will pit for you. Yea fun.

I agree I don't like the idea of a spec engine or the COT car. I'm not for anything goes, but let these guys use their brains to make the car faster and handle. It seems like NASCAR is just stifling ingenuity these days.

Hey how about adding an engine claim rule to NASCAR? LOL

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Unofficial NASCAR related Layoff Count since end of season:

(exceptions noted)

Dale Earnhardt Inc -- 116

Ganassi -- 76 + Nationwide team

Gillett Evernham Motorsports -- 65

Petty Enterprises -- 65

Bill Davis Racing -- 60

Richard Petty Driving Experience -- approx 45

Roush Fenway Racing -- 40-50

Hendrick Motorsports -- 19

Furniture Row -- 25 [approx]

Earnhardt-Childress Racing Technologies -- 25 [approx]

Wood Brothers -- 22

Stewart-Haas -- 16

Richard Childress Racing -- 15

Red Bull Racing -- approx 15

JTG Daugherty Racing -- 12

Michael Waltrip Racing -- 12

Ernie Elliott Inc [Ganassi engines] -- 9

Joe Gibbs Engines -- approx 5

Hall of Fame -- heard many were let go this week, no number yet

Yates -- Unknown

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe Nascar has to open up to Toyota, Hundai, and Honda. Would love to see Jr. get beat by a Volkswagon Bug.. LOL

But then, WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT A BUNCH OF HILLBILLYS DRIVING AROUND A CIRCLE BACKWARDS..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think harvey it right. I can't remember the numbers but I saw something on tv showing how fast Nascar has grown in popularity over the last 10-12yrs. They did speculate Nascar has hit its peak and will level off now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I only did a quick google search but isn't NFL football now more popular than NASCAR? That's how it appeared to me, anyways.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • No Rule was made Dave, just asked for some decency from others.  Forgot who we were asking though.
    • We TOLD ya!!!  nya nya!!!      Good luck!!  Now go follow my recipe!! best pickled beets around!
    • I couldn't find a recipe anywhere online for pickling raw  beets (unless just refrigerator beets) so I must have been mistaken and will just cook them first!  Love them pickled but not so much just cooked!  Thanks for ALL the comments!  
    • Who was looking for .22 shorts on here??? Someone was......Bobby Bass?
    • Hmmm...poor customer service. Shoulda offered to show her a pic of yer pride and joy instead.   
    • Actually this reminds me of a time many years ago when I worked at the local grocery store. We had a sign in front of the ALL laundry detergent with a special sale price. A lady brought up a bottle of Tide detergent and expected it to be the sale price because the sign said ALL detergent. When I explained to her that it was the specific name brand ALL that was on sale and not the "global ALL" (as Del might put it) she got so embarrassed and angry that as she stormed out of the store she insisted it would have made a difference if we would have underlined the word ALL. 
    • A friend cleaned out a relative's house and gave me some ammo, some of which I can't use. Looking for reasonable offers on any of the following. I am in Inver Grove Heights. PM me if interested. 6 boxes 20 gauge Federal 2 3/4" duck/pheasant shells, 5 boxes are #6 shot, 1 box #4 shot 9 50 round boxes .22 short plus 3 partial boxes 9 50 round boxes  .22 long (not long rifle) plus 1 partial box 44 rounds .38 special lead, plus 43 rounds .38 special lead hollow point
    • LOL! Literally just a couple days ago you (Delcecchi) and Leech made the rule that someone shouldn't include you in a conversation that you aren't already engaged in and now you (Delcecchi) are butthurt that you (Delcecchi) weren't included in my statement in a thread you (Delcecchi) had yet to be engaged in. You can't make this stuff up.
    • OK, whatever..  Maybe a qualifier if it is not the global "we"
  • Our Sponsors