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AaaaaaaahHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! They did it again! What is with this team? They either win by 8 runs or lose by 2 or less. 9 LOB today. Bases loaded multiple times. Reyes and Guerrier couldn't get 1 guy out without each giving up 2 runs. This team is jinxed.

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Another one bites the dust! Doesnt matter what are starter do our bullpen will blow it anyways! Heres my solution, let the bullpen throw the first two innings of the game so the offense still has time to get the lead back and we can have are starters come in and shut the door for the last seven innings like they have been!!!!!!!

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Stop ripping our bullpen they are human and are trying their darndist..... grin

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Moreau almost saved us he scorched that ball a couple feet either way it probably goes to the wall and clears the Base's for the Win.

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I sure hope that all these middle relief failures are something that does not get forgotten in the offseason whether or not playoffs happen this year. Neshek will be back but who knows how he's going to be coming back. I sure wish Breslow would be given an opportunity to pitch in some key situations once in a while just to see if he can do it, because it seems that none of the other middle relievers can get outs when they are needed. I so hope that Crain and Guerrier are not with the team next year. (I know that Crain didn't get rocked today but think it was more or less an exception.)

It's easy to second guess management after a game, but have to wonder if Baker wouldn't have got pulled how the rest of the inning would have gone.

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Where was "Everyday Eddie" in all of this? More like "Once in a While Eddie" these days. He hasn't pitched since Wednesday's loss in Toronto.

Oh yeah... never mind... Must be that 'short memory' we're all supposed to be using these days, eh Gardy?

from Wednesday's line:

Guardado (L, 3-4)

Batters faced: 2

IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA

0.0 2 1 1 0 0 0 4.35

Go Twinks!

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Rather than say it again I'm going to quote myself from 8/5/08.

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I didn't think they'd miss Neschek that much. Funny how you can pull one piece out of a pretty solid bullpen & it messes up everyone (except Rock-Solid Joe). Instead of the 7th all the sudden Crain & Guerrier are pitching the 8th, & while they've been solid in their old roles, can't seem to handle their new roles.

I've said it before & I'll say it again: screw the power-hitting third baseman! Forget a veteran starter or shortstop. What this team really needs is a competent bridge to Nathan. There have been too many of these meltdowns in the past month or so & it's going to be tough to hold off the Sox if the Twins can't hold leads like they've done so well the past several years.

Side note: the Mariners practically gave away Arthur Rhodes. Why couldn't the Twins have snagged him?

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Arthur Rhoades?....LOL. hmmmmm a 40 year old left handed pitcher is not what we need or would have any interest in.

Obviously we have to address the bullpen like a lot teams in the off season.

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Boof Bonser with the solid showing again. crazy

These guys are unbelievable. Man, I guess a solid bullpen really is that important!

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Pier, I'd take anybody who's breathing right now. If I were Gardy I'd be trotting Humber, Korecky, heck maybe even Pridie out to the mound in search out outs. What's out there isn't working right now - it's imploding.

I'd take Rhodes in a heartbeat. And your description is awful close to Fast Eddie. smile

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I tried to look on MLB to see how the Twins bullpen ranks compared to the rest of the league or baseball. Anybody have any ideas. I know we are bad, but there has to be some that are in worse shape then us and everybody is always moving relief pitchers around the league. All the contending teams are looking for relief pitchers and I think that is why Gardy threw Humber and the rest in the blow out in Toronto. The game was all but over, so try to see what they have. The one thing that most forget is Crain is also coming off an injury last year.

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dude, put in "Bullpen 2008 ERA" into Goog*le & check the first link. It has the Twins at 18th out of 30 teams with a 4.08 bullpen ERA. Other AL contenders:

CHI #6

TB #5

BOS #10

LA #7

You might say that's the difference between MIN & the four teams listed...

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You can split those stats for home and away. They are actually pretty good at home, but they are AWFUL away from the Metrodome.

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I think this one sentence says it all,

In 14 games since Aug. 23, the Twins bullpen is 0-7 with a 6.49 ERA and has blown four consecutive save opportunities and six of its past eight.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that the closer role with a five run lead against poor teams with no power hitters in the lineup should be given to Mr. J. Crain. Lights out, baby.

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ugh. today you can probably blame the bats just as much as the bp. two runs ain't going to win a whole lot of games and when you have to rely on the bp, this has been the typical result as of late.

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That Mijares looked very good when he pitched tonight. I know it's only one inning, but he looked dang good. He was throwing a 93 mph fastball and his breaking pitch was awesome. Plus, he's left handed. Why they would even play Guardado is beyond me. All the throws is strait 85 mph fastballs, or should I say, meatballs. Lets hope this guy can continue to do good.

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I'm a little nervous with all the bp pitching used in the double header. Hopefully we can get a little deeper with the starters in the next couple games because I know about who's turn it will be to be coming out of the bp.

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I don't think they threw Crain or Matty G today. It's also why we saw all the other arms. I was hoping that Cuddy could have gotten a couple more ABs too...we need him ready down the stretch. Blackburn for 7 tomorrow, the Crain or Matty G and Nathan might not be need tomorrow either. Baltimore is out of pitchers too, so that should help some.

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here's to hoping that matty g and crain are not needed. Kind of wish they would have been used on saturday in the blowouts; although they may not have been blowouts had that happened.

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