portables without support bars

[acarroline]

What portables do not have the extra support bars that you need to put in place after flipping the canvas over? I beleive that the Fish Trap Guide doesn't have support bars, and maybe the Frabill Trekker Deluxe. Any others?

I would like to avoid this with the house I purchase. I usually fish alone or with one other person, and move quite often. Putting extra bars in place would be more setup that I would like to avoid. Are the extra bars only with the houses that allow room for up to 3 people?

[LMITOUT]

I'm not sure if I follow your question exactly, but most of the time the bars aren't required at all. I have an Otter and the only time I use all of the support bars is when it's really windy out and I want it to be more stable. Other than that I never use the bars, other than maybe the wind support pole that goes up in the rear to keep the canvas from caving in if I put my back to the wind.

[Esox_Magnum]

If you fish where theres wind you'll be glad to have the braces. When its calm even my QF3 doesn't neet the braces, I use them anyway to hang the fan and coats on and to hang gloves up to dry. Takes 15 seconds to put them in or take them out. I often move without even collapsing mine just flip the front up and on to the next spot.

[Sandmannd]

The bars in my otter II take me all of five minutes to put up if not less and make it a lot more stable. The thing doesn't move in the wind. I would always go with the support poles.

[NCLaker]

I'm not sure if I follow your question exactly, but most of the time the bars aren't required at all. I have an Otter and the only time I use all of the support bars is when it's really windy out and I want it to be more stable. Other than that I never use the bars, other than maybe the wind support pole that goes up in the rear to keep the canvas from caving in if I put my back to the wind.

Ditto here ... However on nice days were there is a wind, I use tha back support bar to prop up the first tent bracket so it holds up the back side of the tent as wind block. Allows me to enjoy the open air on warmer days without getting wind chilled. Works awesome for this, pretty much the only time I use a support bar.

[mww24]

I bought a clam guide new last year and it has one support bar. Not sure if this years model is any different. I however never use it anymore. Its one little bar that goes from the sled to the rear framing thats behind you when your sitting in the chairs. I used it the first few times out and then quit. I personally never have noticed a difference in stability with it in or out. If its windy the canvas flaps no matter what for me. Just my 2 cents on the guide, I don't know about how any of the other houses operate though.

[Carpenter]

I have a frabil 3 man and I don't have bars. Some days I wish I did.

[eurolarva]

Frabill Trekker Deluxe has the bars. As mentioned I only use them when it is real windy out.

[Deitz Dittrich]

I have an otter cabin, and to be honest, I think I have used the support bars twice. Only in real heavy winds, I often dont even bring them along.

[S.D. Ice Angular]

I agree with the common theme here.

I have a voyager and only use the cross support bars in windy conditions. I also do exactly what "NCLaker" does on nice days. Even when I move I only hook the front side up and just take it easy when it is behind the wheeler.

[Sandmannd]

When I move I just collapse it withough putting the pulls down and it sets back up in a minute.

[Jesse Drummer]

most houses do not require putting poles up in it. they just help when the wind is blowing . it helps to keep the canvas not flexing into the heater. i have a team wild and i always put the front bar in . rarely i use the back one and i have never used any of the remaining two for the top.

[buddha]

I never use mine for my Yukon. It does help in high winds but don't need them.

[jigging-matt]

I rarely use mine on my Voyeager. Just in the real high gusty winds, or if there is a steady wind and we are staying put in one place. Otherwise you really don't need them much.

[nmitchell17]

I have a house that DOESN'T have the support poles and I think that you should definitely get one with some kind of support. When the wind gets going I would love to have a little more support.

[stumper]

With the poles in on my yukon I can walk away from it on windy days that I have seen other similar shacks without the "wind brace kit" installed take off across the lake.With them in its ALOT quieter on windy days as well.