norm25 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I will crawl slowly knowing a lot of you own polaris machines.I have 1999 sportsman 500 that the factory engine expired with under 275 miles I will admit that those 375 miles were the worst miles a machine wold encounter, very harsh like the commercials. I almost expected the first engine failure. But now U replaced the engine and less than 100 miles and no thrashing I have another engine failure. The first time the customer service rep from polaris said t was over maintenance I changed the oil too often and not like the service manual said. Well the new engine I treated like a new child and I guess that wasn't enough.Going out ice fishing through very little snow the machine quit. Thankfully the ice was thick enough to retrieve the machine with a trailer. Got it home and cranked it over to run but a second, all my ears heard was the labor, and click and clack of a doomed engine. What gives, I have maintained these engines per the service manual, the customer service rep on the first engine said I over maintained the engine.??? Do the polaris engines have issues? and where can a guy find an engine to replace the one that is damaged now.By the way let me know what you all think may be wrong it cranks makes a lot of noise the shuts off.Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb S Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Not sure you will get any of the Polaris owners on this site to admit anything could be wrong with a Polaris engine.Over maintaining? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roofer Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Well, I have to believe what you say, but that engine is known to be bulletproof. If you want to see video of 500's going through "you know where", I think I have some. I can't think of anything that I have heard or read, even close to what you are saying.Never heard of over servicing. I would think you could change oil every day and nothing would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 All mfgr's will have lemons once in a while. Even Honda I wouldn't be so concerned it was the fault of the motor the second time around as the possibility of who rebuilt the engine after the first failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 All mfgr's will have lemons once in a while 2 Lemons in a row? To much maintenance? Polaris bulletproof? When I had my popo and had mechanical issues the dealer told me that I wasn't riding it hard enough! I've heard alot of popo excuses before, but never heard of the to much maintenance one? Trust me,get rid of it and get a Yamaha,Suzuki, or Honda! You'll be happy you did! I know I'am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roofer Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah, I don't know. I guess the 500 Fuji motor is supposed to be pretty good.Didn't we go over the fact that Polaris is the reason we have the innovation we have today. There are parts on nearly every atv, that would be considered a copy cat of Polaris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingFishy* Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 4 Polaris ATV's so far and not a single engine problem, have put nearly 10k combined miles on the ones we have owned. Had a leaking water pump once but that was taken care of with no further issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Could it be that whatever caused the first failure was not discovered and caused yet another? Was the engine rebuilt or was it a brand new motor swapped in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Could it be that whatever caused the first failure was not discovered and caused yet another? Was the engine rebuilt or was it a brand new motor swapped in? I took it as the motor was rebuilt. Maybe it wasn't.jltimm,we all understand your disgust with anything Polaris ATV related. However, you are one individual who has had issues. Granted there will be more, but you simply DO NOT represent the majoirty with your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roofer Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I took it as a new motor. I'd be interested to find out what could have went wrong either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm25 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Different engine out of another machine with about 50 miles on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Now that I re-read the original post, I see where he said "replaced".One other question I have is where he acquired the other motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm25 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Out of a totaled machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titelines Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 All mfgr's will have lemons once in a while 2 Lemons in a row? To much maintenance? Polaris bulletproof? When I had my popo and had mechanical issues the dealer told me that I wasn't riding it hard enough! I've heard alot of popo excuses before, but never heard of the to much maintenance one? Trust me,get rid of it and get a Yamaha,Suzuki, or Honda! You'll be happy you did! I know I'am. Gee, I know what you mean Jltimm. I had a Ford Bronco a few years back that was nothing but trouble. The 4-wheel drive didn't work, it stalled when it rained, electrical issues etc. It finally came to an end when it caught fire in a parking lot and was destroyed. To this day, I don't believe that Ford has ever had anything come off the assembly line that was worth anything. They're all junk and I take every opportunity to warn people not to buy a Ford. After all, doesn't my bad experience mean that everyone who buys a Ford will go through that misery too? I know this is off topic - Sorry. It just gets a little old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I knew the popo lovers would be all over me on this! I've said it before and I"ll say it again,look at all the posts with the popo problems! Self explanatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNice Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Just like ford/chev, strikemaster/jiffy, marcum/vexilar,same old/same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver55 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I wont bad mouth them, I've never owned one. I do know which brand I repair the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Out of a totaled machine Thanks for the reply Norm.Depending on the condition of the totaled machine, I would be skeptical of any unseen damage to the motor. The issues with the replacement were more than likely pre-existing and not the fault of poor design or workmanship on behalf of Polaris.I had a KFX700 that was totaled. After talking with the insurance adjuster on the visible damage to the machine, I let them know that due to the nature of the impact, I was concerned there could have been internal damage to the motor. They saw things the same way and decided to total the machine.A few months later a guy called me up asking about the ATV he just bought at a salvage auction. Turned out it was my old KFX. I explained to him what to watch for in the event that something happened and he wasn't overly concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHOPSHOP Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Take it to WOODSMEN in Alexandra. Great dealer, I hope your not going to Rohners for help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb S Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Just like ford/chev, strikemaster/jiffy, marcum/vexilar,same old/same old. All of those products are good so it is the same old. But Polaris... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roofer Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Talk with no facts mean nothing. I will be having fun passing up Yami's, suki's, honda's, ac's, and kawi's with my POPO. I may even have some proof that I own an atv and use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Hows that new popo treating you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roofer Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Good so far. The power is unreal, along with the ride. Feels like a sport machine, but with 4wd. Only have about 100 miles on it. Just changed oil on it and my dad's new SP 800. May be taking them out to break trail for a guy I know with a Kodiak. That SRA Kodiak with stock tires gets nowhere in the snow. Gotta break the trails to our cabins, otherwise it get real tough getting back there. They had 14" in one snowfall a few weeks ago. May be interesting if they got much yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb S Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 You want facts, go onto any of the ATV forums and take a look at the postings. If you think Polaris is as reliable as the Japanese made machines you haven't done much reading. When someone on the ATV forums asks "which utility quad should I buy", they mention most any brand except a Popo or they suggest staying away from a Popo.I hope you love yours and have good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I guess the weak seals on the top end of the early twin Kawi's, or the week tie rods on the KFX 700 and the Bombardier (Can Am)DS 650, or the frame issues on the Suzuki Vinson's and LTR's and Can Am Outlanders, or the Suzuki cam chain issues, or the Honda exhausts being choked up, or Hondas reluctance to go with disc brakes, or Honda's poor suspension/weak shocks, or the Grizzly's week axles, or the Grizzly's boiling gas in the carbs, or the Grizly's being more susceptible to water vapor entering the intake......and so on and so on....really means nothing at all. We can dig up more if anyone would like. I guess Polaris is the only mfgr who really has their lion's share of problems. Sheesh!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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