JigginIsLife Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I am making jerky and was wondering if my recipe will work,Its kind of a jumbled mess of stuff but the majority of it consists of:Liquid SmokeSoy SauceBrown SugarGingerBlack pepperGarlic Powderand thats about it i was wondering if you all think this will work or what i can do to improve it. Do you think that getting an acutal out of the bag cure or will this taste fine??--Im a first timer so im kinda winging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 It is my understanding that you will need a cure.. otherwise you risk getting pretty sick..I have made my own marinaids and such, and have yet to make something that tastes better than store bought mixes. Last year or the year before the company Shore Lunch came out with a few new mixes... I madea few of them and they were quite good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbartguy Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 call a Cub, Rainbow (or your local big grocery/meat mart) and get Allegro's Marinade (any flavor would work - but smoke or regular are the ticket). It's usually used for beef/fish marinade. much easier than making my own -I got tired of trying new recipes, just to waste meat and find out they taste horrible. This stuff is great. I actually bought a 12 pack of it. Soak the meat for a couple of hours and throw it in the dehydrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigginIsLife Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 so then do i need cure if i put it in the oven for like 4 hrs or am i ok then?? i mean i didnt let it sit out and just dry but i set it in the ovan at like warm for about 3 hrs and i figured that would be quite enough heat to kill anhything in there wouldnt ya think?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqhead Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 i agree with the homemade jerky, triedevery recipe on the net... soy sauce,terriaki, ect never did anything for mytaste buds. i use hi mountain jerky cureand add a few spices to it.randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yendor Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 tell me if I am wrong but I think the only time you need to cure the meat is if you are going to smoke it, the reason would be to prevent botulism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigginIsLife Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 well thats what im trying to figure out?? if i cook it oin the oven on warm i dont know if it gets warm enough to kill any bacteria such as botulism. So if anyone knows for sure whether or not i need cure please inform me cuz if i dont need it it would save me some serious $$. or if you find a HSOforum that lists on whether you need it or not let me know.. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvingdog Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Cure can, and does come from salt, acids or both. The best and most enoyable way to make jerky I've ever seen comes from a method by a guy named Alton Brown from the Food Network. He cures with Soy Sauce and Worchestershire sauce (yum!) and then dries the meat (Thats what dehydrators and ovens do) using a box fan and furnace filters. I've done it. It works. Super fast, cheap and really fun gadgety kind of stuff. Here's the whole shebang:1 1/2 to 2 pounds flank steak2/3 cup Worcestershire sauce2/3 cup soy sauce1 tablespoon honey2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper2 teaspoons onion powder1 teaspoon liquid smoke1 teaspoon red pepper flakesSpecial Equipment: 1 box fan, 4 paper air-conditioning filters, and 2 bungee cordsTrim the flank steak of any excess fat, place in a zip-top bag, and place it in the freezer for 1 to 2 hours in order to firm up.Remove the steak from the freezer and thinly slice the meat with the grain, into long strips.Place the strips of meat along with all of the remaining ingredients into a large, 1-gallon plastic zip-top bag and move around to evenly distribute all of the ingredients. Place the bag into the refrigerator for 3 to 6 hours.Remove the meat from the brine and pat dry. Evenly distribute the strips of meat onto 3 of the air filters, laying them in the grooves and then stacking the filters on top of one another. Top these with 1 empty filter. Next, lay the box fan on its side and lay the filters on top of it. Strap the filters to the fan with 2 bungee cords. Stand the fan upright, plug in and set to medium. Allow the meat dry for 8 to 12 hoursLike I say, I've done it myself. Now I want to build lots of my own re-usable racks and have fans going from both sides to increase capacity.Want more? Search engine Alton Brown and Jerky.You'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqhead Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 the hi mountain jerky cure does kinda cure the meat.i think gander mtn carries it.smoking meat is a tricky deal. you want to get beefto 140 or higher as quick as possible so it doesntstay in the danger zone to long.using the commercial cures give you some protection.i have a link to one of the best jerky sites aroundbut i have to find it.will post tommorrowrandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigginIsLife Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 SOOOO i DONT need to cure it. Then why the big deal with cure?? i mean do i really need it or what. i have read in many different articles that cure is NEEDED but, then you say it isnt. i tried a batch without cure and it came out great, and im not sick...so far... knock on particle board. but i will keep researching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippman Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I'm no pro at this either, but what I've heard is that curing the meat will allow it to last longer. If not cured it should be left in fridge and won't last as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Woodie Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I have never cured beef or goose before. My thinking is, Beef, how rare would you eat a steak? Some are pretty rare. So if its beef jerky, your going to "cook" it better at 150-160 degrees for a few hours in the smoker/dehydrator, you actually are pretty much cooking it "more" than you would a steak that you eat.Catch my drift? Now, if we went to pork or something else, cure is a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqhead Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 ok here is a few links that i am including with post that deal with safety issues. or tell you how do it safely. you can do jerky without cure but when smoking or in the dehidrater[sp] the meat stays in the danger zone for too long. i have done jerky in everyway that i have found on the net but i would say that the hi mountain jerky cure is the way to go... http://www.randyq.addr.com/jerky/jerky.htm hope this helps bbqhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqhead Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 i would always use a cure for jerky. if i smoke any meat forpeople, i have did a few wedding receptions. i pray\no one gets sick... you never know what is in the meatyou get. smoking pork is a long day. you have to checktemps every 1/2 hour.... doing 40 lbs pork butt on the smokertommorow for deer camp and 10 lbs venison for jerky.bbqhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjgmh Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I use Mortons Tender Quick as a cure. I use a dehydrator and this was recommended in the directions of the dehydrator since the temp of the meat does not get above 140 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamgmc Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'll put my jerky that has been cured into my day pack you put some uncured meat into yours.It is a perservitive plain and simple its how they kept meat before refrigeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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