Flathead article in currentl InF Mag

[DTro]

Has anyone read it?

Wow, some interesting facts. Basically the flats were radio tagged and movements monitored.

I think the three most interesting facts were:

Biggest movement period was between 7and12pm

Most every movement was structure related (read logs)

Very little to no meandering or lazy swimming. Deliberate movement from one log to the next. Straight as an arrow.

This data was taken midsummer and not typical during any migration period.

oh yeah, another interesting thing was that they were musky like, in that if a spot was vacated another would quickly move in.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Yes, I found it interesting, too. It would have been cool if they could have tracked more. If I remember correctly, they only have the ability to follow the movements of a few fish.

[I Da Man]

Dr Voknoun was kind enough to send the whole disertation to me a couple of years ago. I have his permission to distribute with a couple restrictions.

If you're interested in it.

PS you will learn the metric conversion quickly.

[DARK30]

I'll have to read that. Maybe he can explain how and why I've caught very aggressive Flatheads in shallow, fast,rocky water with no wood or snags anywhere close.....and on artificial's no less. Flatheads do use deep snaggy portions of the Minnesota River but they certainly aren't limited to those areas.

I would say the midsummer movements from log to log would have something to do with higher water temperatures causing them to be less aggressive. What river system did this study take place on? Remember that our system here is unique being so much farther north than other Flathead Catfish habitat.

[I Da Man]

Kevin, it was the Grand and the Culvre rivers in MO.

One was tracked 60 miles from her wintering home to her summer home!

I printed off the Dr Vokoun's dissertation and in a nutshell...if you take the time to read through it, will tell you where to look for flats at any time of the year. As you pointed out Dark, the water temps are different down there...but it's the same cycle...just need to adjust for this by about 3 three weeks.

I have the dissertation posted and is downloadable somewhere else. Please follow the guide lines that Jason set forth when using his work. He spend a lot of time working on this and has been VERY generous in allowing us to access his work!

[Ralph Wiggum]

I DA,

Can you send me that dissertation or the link?

[email protected]

Thanks!

[I Da Man]

Done deal Ralph.

I've tried sending this in the past to Hotmail and Yahoo users. Normally it comes back to me as undeliverable because the file size is too big.

I don't think I can post the link here?

[Dennis Steele]

I Da Man,

Go ahead and post the link to the pdf.

I downloaded it this morning and am going to take a read.

Might take a me few days! Boy is it BIG!

[maj330]

I would very much like to read the dissertation. Can you post the link or send the pdf too:[email protected]

Thank you.

[I Da Man]

Here you go.

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The link below is a dissertation by Jason C. Vokoun completed in December of 2003. He asked that it would be posted in its entirety. I'd like to thank Jason for sharing this information with us.

I think you will find many points of interest in his findings of Flathead movements and habitat use.

Keep an eye open for Jason's articles on cat's in fishing publications.

Thanks again Jason!

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[hanson]

Brian- You're link isn't working like I was expecting.

www.(contact us regarding this word).com

Anyone know how to host a PDF file online?

[Dennis Steele]

The link will not work at this site.

Our filter is preventing it.

[I Da Man]

Oh well...I tried....

Maybe Rick could host it?

[Dennis Steele]

Here is the link.

Vokoun Dissertation

[DTro]

Thanks for that link.

I never....ever...thought I'd be excited about reading a dissertation.

[Dennis Steele]

Dude!

I don't even know what a dissertation is!

I am guessing it is a very long, boring report.

Yes Thanks I Da Man for the info!

[DARK30]

I just started reading the Latin version of the Old Testament...I'll have to read the 200 pages of that dissatuition tomorrow when I'm finished

[I Da Man]

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I just started reading the Latin version of the Old Testament

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'Least you have your priorities straight! LoL!

[Cooter]

Cripes, its gonna take a 6 pack to read that thing

[DTro]

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Cripes, its gonna take a 6 pack to read that thing

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I guess you can read faster than me

[hanson]

dtro-

I would suggest not rushing it.

[I Da Man]

This worked for me...no beer...you'll fall asleep!

I used a pencil and Xed the pages that didn't have any info on it...the ones that talked about what kind of transmitters ect.

The good stuff is under "Results" and "Disscusions". If you just read those areas...well there's more than a six pack there...but that has the most meat.

I would have loved to be his anchor beatch!

PS Dennis...5.5 beers in is when the good stuff starts....

[DARK30]

I guess I missed the "mid summer" time period. Things got pretty slow last year on the Minnesota when the water went over 80 degrees. I picked up the InFish version of the report but I didn't notice any water temp info in it. Hot water will change things dramatically.

I may still try and read through the other report I printed ( note to self )...buy more printer paper and ink.