Strange situations and rulings

[genegodawa]

Well, I promised Pier I would start this type of thread so here goes. I would love to hear some of the strange and uncommon situations that have been known to happen on the field. Feel free to chime in with actual rules you know, or just questions you want to stimulate the forum group with. You know what I mean: out of baseline, interferences, etc. or weird plays that have happened.

I'm sorry I don't have the memory I used to so I can't post the outcome, but I seem to remember one some years ago about a sacfly. I'll try to remember that one and post it later if I can.

As to rules, did you know a runner can be hit with a batted ball and still not be out in a certain situation?

As to weird plays, I think the time Fisk tagged 2 runners out consecutively at homeplate rates up their for me.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Geno,

How about Wilbur Wood pitching both games of a double header. Remember ole Wilbur, what a card. I used to love watching him dance the knuckle ball up there for eight innings and then bringing in Goose Gossage throwing 100 mph smoke.

Windy

[Mudcutter]

How about this--

A batter swings and misses at a ball near the dirt with 2 strikes. The catcher catches the ball. No scuff mark on the ball. No dirt is kicked up. How did the ball change directions?? It did so by hitting the web of his GLOVE!!! HOW IS THE BATTER NOT CALLED OUT??? BY A CONFUSED UMP (seeing AJ run on the play) AND HIS CREW NOT WANTING TO CALL HIM ON IT!!! PERIOD!!!!!

Windy -- poll outsiders on this--- the UMP MISSED the CALL!!!! it's a victory for the SOX--- but it's tainted no matter which way you look at it. The haunting of Shoeless Joe continues even in victory.

[genegodawa]

Mud,

I feel your pain, but I was hoping this thread could be about OTHER weird plays.

Windy,

Wilbur Wood actually came to one of my LLeague practices about 40 yrs ago. Threw a few knucklers to me too. Pretty cool back when I was young, didn't know any better, and rooted for both Chi teams - nyuk, nyuk.

Here's another weird play: remember Reggie getting hit by the throw while in the baseline? Another "did he or didn't he" situation. Did he intentionally stick out his elbow to get hit? Wasn't that a WS game or just a playoff? I don't remember now.

[ZapBranigan]

1987 World Series. Did Kent Hrbeck pull the runner off the bag? Hmmm I watched that several times over and over. Looked bad but called the other way. You're OUT. Ha Great memory. Kent will never say. So it will remain a mystery.

Or was that 1991. It's all a blur now.

[PierBridge]

His All Star Wrestling background sure came in handy that play.

One of my favorites is the Player to be named later rule.

Baseball is the only sport that doesn’t let teams trade draft picks. Teams can trade players for cash, the aforementioned player to be named later, or “future considerations.” In the latter two cases, the deal must be completed within six months.

Geno may remember one of the three wackiest trades in MLB history.

Early in the 1962 season, the Indians traded catcher Harry Chiti to the Mets for a player to be named later—who turned out to be Chiti when the deal was completed in June. That made him the first player ever to be traded for himself.

Cubs pitcher Dickie Noles was also traded for himself in 1987. He was traded to Detroit for a PTBNL in August, and then sent back to the Cubs when the deal was finalized after the season.

But the ultimate player to be named later has to be Cardinals shortstop Jose Gonzalez, who was traded to the Giants in 1984—and promptly changed his name to Jose Uribe because, as he put it, “There are too many Gonzalezes in baseball!”

[fishyguy]

Wasn't there also a trade between a couple of players who traded wives and families?

[genegodawa]

Pier,

I don't remember them happening but have heard the story about a player being traded for himself.

And now you've given me an idea for another thread about

player names.

PS I think the sacfly rule is coming back to me: An outfielder catches a foul fly down the line and the runner tags up and scores. The defense can "decline" the out of the caught ball. Pretty sure I saw it in a Cub game several yrs ago.

Keep the weird situations coming guys.

[PierBridge]

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Pier,

PS I think the sacfly rule is coming back to me: An outfielder catches a foul fly down the line and the runner tags up and scores. The defense can "decline" the out of the caught ball. Pretty sure I saw it in a Cub game several yrs ago.

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Hmmmm.....Geno.....why would you decline the out.....are you saying they can attemt to throw the guy out and if not succesful take back the out and the runner goes back.

Is there any chance you were at this game and it was FREE Beer night.

[rundrave]

Speaking of weird trades. There was a female pitcher that pitched in the Northern League Baseball about 10yrs ago or so, maybe she even pitched for the St. Paul Saints? She was traded to another team. I wonder how the guy that got traded for her felt, I am pretty sure he got some slack for it. I just remember her pitching at a Canaries game here in town.

[buzzsaw]

I think her name was: Ila Borders????

[genegodawa]

Pier,

I'm not sure if they make an attempt that they can decline the out, but I'm pretty sure it actually happened. I'll have to hunt down the rule. (Free beer? We can only hope!)

Women players reminds me of how good my sister was - a real tomboy, better than most kids in the neighborhood but too bad that was back before they let girls in LLeague. She could do it all-and every sport too. Of course, that and a quarter.......

Well, I found the dropped third rule and Pier is correct: The batter runner can go up to the duguout steps and can still turn around and run to first without being called out until either he or first base is tagged. I was wrong in thinking he can be called out for abandoning the play beforehand. Still haven't found the sacfly rule yet....I'll keep looking (might have to read the whole rulebook)