Typical Unibrow!!

[LMITOUT]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. That moron can't handle a car in a restrictor plate race. I stated that here once before and caught heck for it, but time and time again he proves his incompetence at these tracks. I don't know if he's scared or if he's that stupid, but I'm leaning toward the latter.

Maybe if he could run his illegal shocks he could drive better.......

[LMITOUT]

ROFLMAO! Once again, he makes up excuses for the crash HE caused...his in-car audio says that the car behind him (#8) drafted into him in the corner. Unbelievable. Is this his first race or what? Sure acts like it. Just like the last restrictor race he won't man-up and admit he messed up. I guess you have to be a man first.

[JohnMickish]

Would Jr. admit to bump drafting him in the corner? I don't think so. But you are right, he won't admit to anything.

[NAPAFISH]

Watch the tape, Jr doesnt hit until Unibrow hits Sadler. I think Jr is one of the best plate racers around. Newman is just as guilty. You cant bump draft into and out of turn

[JohnMickish]

I just watched the tape and on my tv in super slow motion you clearly see the 8 car hit the 48 before the 48 hits the 38. In super slowmo you can see the hood of the 8 shake right before unibrow gets into Sadler,(like maybe the 48 backed off and Jr. was to close) and by right before I'm talking maybe a few thousanths of a second. BUT it looks like the 38 was slower at that point, like jr. said. So yes, Johnson spins out Sadler but Jr. hits Johnson first. I'd have to say this was "one of them racin' deals"

To bad Martin was involved in it.

[mnz71hunt]

definition or moron - Jimmie Johnson

It didn't surprise me he wasn't willing take responsibility, he never does and likely never will until maybe someone like Jimmy Spencer gives him the Kurt Busch treatment.

I wasn't any happier with the actions and comments on the radio by Ryan Newman - at first he tried claiming he was bumped from behind - not so Mr. Newman. Then in his post race interview he took responsibility - his team must have let him know what the replay showed - guilty Mr. Newman, you are guilty.

Once again my fantasy team was killed by the "Napa, Domino's, Best Western, blah, blah, blah, Chevrolet" being the wrong place at the wrong time.

At least Elliot Sadler and Scott Rigs have something in common they can talk about. That was a scary deal, and how about the in car shot from Jeff Burton, he might want Depends as a sponsor next year.

[LMITOUT]

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I just watched the tape and on my tv in super slow motion you clearly see the 8 car hit the 48 before the 48 hits the 38. In super slowmo you can see the hood of the 8 shake right before unibrow gets into Sadler,(like maybe the 48 backed off and Jr. was to close) and by right before I'm talking maybe a few thousanths of a second.

BUT

it looks like the 38 was slower at that point, like jr. said. So yes, Johnson spins out Sadler but Jr. hits Johnson first. I'd have to say this was "one of them racin' deals"

To bad Martin was involved in it.

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Better take those rose-colored glasses off....Jr. DID NOT hit the #48. It's very clear and obvious. Don't try to spin it into something it's not. Have you seen what the air turbulance does to the hoods of these cars? The hoods are shaking all around the track and especially behind another car. If that's what you are using as an indicator to say someone ran into the back of another.....whew.....I dunno....I better get my hip-boots on because it's getting deep in here.

[lawdog]

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I better get my hip-boots on because it's getting deep in here.

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All of us need our boots on when you come hear with your delirious ranting and raving... Get a grip!

[LMITOUT]

Just preaching the truth and the FACTS. I've got a grip...on reality. It's time for the light to shine on Mr. Perfect (#48) and expose him for who he really is. I think the Hendrick backers are starting to get defensive when the truth is finally starting to come out that they aren't all that they are cracked up to be. Illegal parts, poor sportsmanship, heck even the boss doesn't treat his people fairly and got caught for not paying over $350K in OT to his workers. They've done a good job at hiding it for a long time, but eventually the public will see through the smoke and mirror show.

[TNFL]

If 48 would have checked up the 8 would have taken him out because he was way to close! Its just racing

[LMITOUT]

Possibly. It's over and done with now and nothing is going to change. Ruined a good race, but not much you can do about it so we might as well look forward to the final 7 races.

[PERCHJR]

IT IS JUST "HENDRICK" FOR YAH!!! They never do anything wrong just ask them!!! Oh and about the Hip-boot thing I will be putting on the Chest-waders from now on, because these Hendrick fans are lost in there own little "so called" racing world!!!

GOOD LUCK AND GOOD FISHING!!!

[VMS]

You think Elliot Sadler is at least happy that he did not end up on his roof this year?

Pretty sad, though, that these younger guys have yet to figure out that bump-drafting in a corner is only a disaster waiting to happen. And...at a race like Talladega, why in the heck would someone want to be that aggressive only 20 laps into a race? It's not smart driving. No doubt replays show JJ had no help in hitting Sadler. He had a run and did not lift or move out of the way...it was drive right through them all... Glad he got collected later on in the race. The worst part is Mark Martin and Michael Waltrip ended up taking the brunt of the first wreck and Riggs took a nice tumble from the same type of aggressive driving....

I think a change is needed to the front ends. Take out all the webbing/reinforcement and the bump-drafting will subside. As soon as you crunch that nose, your day is done. They would have alot more careful driving out there...

The race was no fun to watch...especially when 1/2 the field is gone from two boneheaded mistakes...

Steve

[JohnMickish]

LMITOUT, I'm not saying Jr. caused anything, and the 48 still would have hit the 38 if Jr. wasn't there, but if you watch it in digital super slow motion there is one angle where you WILL see the 8 get into the 48. Period. No, Jr. didn't cause that wreck, Johnson either went in to fast and hit Sadler or Sadler slowed down and backed into the 48 for some reason, and there are only two people that know the truth and they are pointing at each other.

I don't like Johnson, his eyebrows give me the creaps but he did kind of take a little responsibility for it at the end, sort of.

[LMITOUT]

I watched it on a 52" high definition tv. Saw the replays over and over again. Even on the crappy standard definition signal it was evident there was no contact between the 48 and 8. The announcers said there wasn't contact before the wreck. I'd like to see that camera angle you're speaking of because it's not seen in any of the three other angles I've seen.

But, what does it matter at this point. The fact is that the race was ruined by lack of concentration or pure stupidity. NASCAR puts the drivers in this position because of the restrictor plate rule and you have to expect it to happen everytime they wave the green flag at Daytona or Talladega. I just wanna know why it's always the same guy who's in the middle of it? There is a common theme there that cannot be denied.

[JohnMickish]

Exactly. Same guy that dosen't have enough seat time yet. maybe in a few years he'll realize that they pay the money on the last lap, not the first.

Oh, and the angle is when they are going away. It's only one or two frames before the 38 gets hit. But it's a moot point, still a bunch of wrecked good cars.

[NAPAFISH]

Your fantasy was ruined by the #48 not MW

Jeff Burton says the 48 got into the 38

Elliot Sadler says the 48 got into the 38

Michael Waltrip says the 48 got into the 38

Dale Jr says the 48 got into the 38

Nuff said

[JohnMickish]

Yep, I'm wrong. Jr. didn't get into the 48 first, and nobody was doubting that the 48 hit the 38, just the matter of order of events. Just a dumb plate track deal anyway.

[marine_man]

I got this from yahoo:

Johnson Admits Fault in Crash

At least he owned up to it I guess...

marine_man

[lawdog]

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ROFLMAO! Once again, he makes up excuses for the crash

HE

caused...his in-car audio says that the car behind him (#8) drafted into him in the corner. Unbelievable. Is this his first race or what? Sure acts like it. Just like the last restrictor race he won't man-up and admit he messed up. I guess you have to be a man first.

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I assume Limtout and all the others who claim he would never admit a mistake will be here recanting their statements any minute now that Jimmie has seen the tape and realized he started the wreck and accepted full responsibility!

I'll check back tomorrow to see the apologies...

[LMITOUT]

You won't see an apology from me. All he is doing when taking responsibility for the crash (two days later) is just PR fluff.

I suppose the one positive thing we can take from his statement is that he's admitted to having a problem. That's the crucial first step in the 12 step "I'm a horrible restrictor plate driver" program.

My best wishes in his treatment and therapy.

[PierBridge]

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You won't see an apology from me.

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Of course not because your so rapped up in your hatred for anything Hendrick related.......you need to put the key board away and go fishing.

[LMITOUT]

No, I'm just tired of the "Hendrick is the best ever" attitude and everyone else is just pond scum. Funny how when the shoe is on the other foot people get real defensive and retreat to insulting others. I guess that's the typical Hendrick fan M.O.

BTW, I like that buck avatar.

[JohnMickish]

Ranks right up there with the "Jr. is god and DEI is the best ever" attitude and everyone else is just pond scum, dosen't it?

[Double D]

Just to change the subject a little bit, my favorite part of that race had to be when Jarrett was stopped at the start-finish line and then in the background Kyle Petty limped across on 3 wheels and did a half burnout after his last lap wreck. At least he didn't have to take a DNF.

DD