bken Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 What kind of heaters are you guys running? Do you guys have to build your wall out if using a direct vent? Since most of them are for 4 1/2" walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawg Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I didn't have to because I framed with 2x3's and with inside wood on walls, siding, and heat shield on furnace I was close enough. It would be easy to put a little on the outside of the hose though. I'm a touch short but never caused me any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold one sd Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I use an Empire Direct Vent with 1x2" studs. To get the 4 1/2" distance you use a vinyl siding kit on the outside of the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bken Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 i was looking at getting a Williams 1403821 Direct-Vent Natural Gas Furnace - 14,000 BTU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawg Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 14 isn't very big, how big is your house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bken Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 my house is a 6x12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold one sd Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 My wheelhouse is 6 1/2'x12'. I use an Empire 15,000 and it heats it very well. I have 1 1/2" white foam insulation in the walls and ceiling with an uninsulated floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawg Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Empire's are great heaters, but expensive new, like Cold One has. Check the efficiency of the Williams. You won't be overheated if you're insulated well but it will probably work. I know that anything over about that 14,000 BTU is where they start to get real expensive so that is always a concern too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bken Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I can pick up williams for around 500. my house will have 2" sprayed foamed floor. 1 1/2" foam board in the walls and 2" in the ceiling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Bear Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 14 hours ago, bken said: i was looking at getting a Williams 1403821 Direct-Vent Natural Gas Furnace - 14,000 BTU Natural gas? Do you convert it to propane then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bken Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 no it is already propane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hage Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) The bay... has Empire dv215 for $629.00 Edited March 2, 2017 by Sea Hage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysFishing23 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 A wood stove.... when we had a permanent. If you forgot wood a buddy heater. Simple, cheap, fun. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungdeflator Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I have a Nu-way in right now...might switch to a wall mount heater over the summer though. Anybody have experience with the ones Menards sell? NVM just noticed the Menards ones are the Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_healer_guy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I have the williams one from menards. Love it. Went threw 2 empires before that, issues with thermocuplers and unit rusting during the summers, humidity im assuming. What I like about the williams I have is everything is right there when you open the hood, not tucked on the side like the empire if you have maintenance to do. Going on 6 years and starts right up, it does take a little longer to heat up the house, but whats 15 minutes. Plus the price was right, back then it was 389. lungdeflator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bken Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 How thick are your walls on your house that you installed the williams heater in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perchking Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I picked up a 1 month old empire dv215 for 75 off the liiist. I had to convert it from nat to lp but that was also pretty cheap. It's heats my 8x12 that has been foamed pretty good. It will be better once I get a 12v celing fan to push the air down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungdeflator Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 16 hours ago, blue_healer_guy said: I have the williams one from menards. Love it. Went threw 2 empires before that, issues with thermocuplers and unit rusting during the summers, humidity im assuming. What I like about the williams I have is everything is right there when you open the hood, not tucked on the side like the empire if you have maintenance to do. Going on 6 years and starts right up, it does take a little longer to heat up the house, but whats 15 minutes. Plus the price was right, back then it was 389. How big of a house do you have and what BTU is your heater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLabGuy Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 We have an OLD 8x16 ice castle and put the 30K BTU Williams in it from Menards, I think it was $800 delivered. It works great, we just framed a 2x6 area when we installed it so it fit as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkrivermn Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 3/2/2017 at 0:07 PM, bken said: I can pick up williams for around 500. my house will have 2" sprayed foamed floor. 1 1/2" foam board in the walls and 2" in the ceiling Skip foam board and spray foam the entire house, that way the efficiency will allow you to use a smaller BTU heater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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