Next years draft?

[LABS4ME]

But a couple weeks ago that Packer defense didn't look quite as dismal as it does now. Wonder why?

really? You must be watching a different team than I. Aside from the Lions and Ravens, who have they stopped? 5 of the first 7 games they played, the D gave up over 30 points a game... They are no more dismal now, than earlier in the season. The three current losses they gave up 27 points a game.

Plain and simple, they were a below average D without injuries, they are bottom of the barrel now. They lacked talent with their first string, they have no talent with their second string.

Good Luck!

Ken

[LABS4ME]

and the Lions did not have Megatron in that game... so the secondary dodged a bullet that day.

[Big Dave2]

really? You must be watching a different team than I. Aside from the Lions and Ravens, who have they stopped? 5 of the first 7 games they played, the D gave up over 30 points a game... They are no more dismal now, than earlier in the season. The three current losses they gave up 27 points a game.

Plain and simple, they were a below average D without injuries, they are bottom of the barrel now. They lacked talent with their first string, they have no talent with their second string.

Good Luck!

Ken

Your defense is never considered dismal when you are 5-2

[LABS4ME]

y'Ok...

giving up over thirty points consistantly makes your defense dismal. Your offense put lipstick on a pig with a win.

But that's OK... I expect you to be contrary.

Tell me again how giving up 30+ points even in a win makes your defense good?

[LMITOUT]

With the announcement that Ponder is starting this weekend it appears that the Vikings are going all-in on moving up the draft board to get that coveted MLB that the entire league desires.

[DrJuice1980]

If that was a jab at me I don't get it. When have I ever uttered a resemblance to that statement? I believe that I've said, all along, to trade down, amass as many 1-3rd round picks as possible and focus on MLB, CB, QB, OG. When have I ever stated "use the high pick on an MLB?" Please quote so I can understand your jab. If your referring to me stating that the Bama guy will be the best available that was not me suggesting to take a MLB with a top 5 choice. However if it comes down to either selecting one of these QBs with a top 5 pick or a MLB and trading down wasn't allowed then I would choose MLB. Why? Because I'm not getting excited about any QB coming out.

[Big Dave2]

Tell me again how giving up 30+ points even in a win makes your defense good?

Tell me again when I said the Packer defense was good?

[Rick]

LB Michael Mauti might have had a chance at his first NFL start if not for tweaking his left knee last Sunday, but he still could see his most extensive defensive action this week with Erin Henderson out. Mauti, Leslie Frazier and Audie Cole discussed the situation.

[CaptainMusky]

Manziel had a pro type game today when it mattered most. If that pro qb throws 165 yards a TD and an INT. Definitely worthy of a #1 pick.

[creepworm]

Good lord,

He had a bad game, it happens to everyone.

Using your logic, every NFL QB that has had a bad game should be in street clothes. That leaves Matt McGloin and Case Keenum as the only two quarterbacks with a start that should still be starting.

You do realize that A&M has no run game whatsoever so it makes it extremely difficult for him against a good defense. Also, A&M might have the worst defense in the FCS so he steps onto the field knowing that he has to hang 40 on the scoreboard to be competitive.

[CaptainMusky]

You see "one bad game" I saw games/plays this year where he just plain got lucky. Scrambling 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage and "chucking and hoping" isn't going to translate well to the NFL.

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Mariota looked HORRIBLE yesterday. That is the ONE guy i for sure hope we don't end up with. He is the definition of a system QB.

[Big Dave2]

You see "one bad game" I saw games/plays this year where he just plain got lucky. Scrambling 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage and "chucking and hoping" isn't going to translate well to the NFL.

What you saw was "one" game and a .gif that LMIT OUT posted.

[Big Dave2]

Manziel had a pro type game today when it mattered most. If that pro qb throws 165 yards a TD and an INT. Definitely worthy of a #1 pick.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here but Manziel had 224 yds.

[CaptainMusky]

Oh so now you are my wife and know how many times I've watched him play?

I have watched bits and pieces of pretty much every game and a couple in entirety.

I could care less what LMT posts. They bring nothing to my observations.

[Big Dave2]

Looks like the Packers will be looking to get one of those franchise middle linebackers just like the Vikings.

Seems funny how the packers were 5-2 with Rodgers and had wins against Minnesota and Detroit with the same defense but now basically have lost 5 straight games since Rodgers went down(yes, a tie to the Vikings is basically a loss).

Dr. Juice, want to tell me again how MLB is the position the vikings most need to fix?

[Big Dave2]

Oh so now you are my wife and know how many times I've watched him play?

I have watched bits and pieces of pretty much every game and a couple in entirety.

I could care less what LMT posts. They bring nothing to my observations.

You've watched parts of every game that Johnny football ever played? Even the games that are not nationally televised? You must really be a big Johnny Football fan!

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Big Dave- the vikings defense is HISTORICALLY bad.( As in worst defense the vikings have ever had) Don't know if you noticed that or not..... The offense is scoring enough points to win on any given sunday even with CHRISTIAN BLUNDER at the helm. Its not at all stupid to suggest selecting defense first, especially with no andrew luck in the draft. Spielman has no clue who to pick at QB anyway

[Big Dave2]

Big Dave- the vikings defense is HISTORICALLY bad.( As in worst defense the vikings have ever had) Don't know if you noticed that or not..... The offense is scoring enough points to win on any given sunday even with CHRISTIAN BLUNDER at the helm. Its not at all stupid to suggest selecting defense first, especially with no andrew luck in the draft. Spielman has no clue who to pick at QB anyway

OK, I'll put you in the category with Dr. Juice tat says MLB is more important than QB.

BTW, did you happen to watch the Packers today?

[DrJuice1980]

It is when you got a pool of QBs coming out where none wow you. We'll see how Cole does in his follow up and the rest of the season. A few weeks ago it was...

[CaptainMusky]

You've watched parts of every game that Johnny football ever played? Even the games that are not nationally televised? You must really be a big Johnny Football fan!

obviously reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits. "Pretty much every game" = televised games.

Not a fan of him at all just trying to see what it is that has some of you guys polishing his knob so much. So far haven't seen it.

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Did i say MLB was more important then QB? No. I said its not stupid to suggest taking a defensive player over a QB in the first rd of the upcoming draft. There is no Andrew Luck in this draft. All these QB's coming out are gonna be a carp shoot.

Yes i am tired of garbage qb play for the vikes, but I'm also very tired of watching this defense continue to wet their pants every single game, especially when the offense has gotten them the lead in the 4th quarter. (which has been the case in at least 3 or 4 games this year)

[CaptainMusky]

Yiggin I agree with you. Qb is probably our highest need but to take one in the top half of the first round is a leap because of no real superstars. Peopled complained about Ponder at 12 well this draft is full of repeats of that scenario.

[Big Dave2]

If you think that 1 middle linebacker or any defensive player for that matter is going to turn this Vikings Defense into the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, you are nuts.

The one position on this team that you could upgrade and make this defense better would be............wait for it................wait for it........................Quarterback!

Just ask the GB Packers.

[CaptainMusky]

OK big Dave, which qb in this draft is that guy to select with a top 5 pick? Wait for it ....wait for it....backpedal...crickets chirping...