Spielman new GM of Vikes

[flipper]

Fantastic! Now I will be able to sleep at night.

[FutbolGuru]

Zepman, +1.

This is a positive move for the Vikings organization. Spielman now has the final say in all player personel transactions and, therefore, will be held accountable to our success/failure in this area. He'll be forced to do his very best work and we'll find out soon enough how good he is. We're moving in the right direction. The Wilfs have experienced some growing pains thus far, but one thing is for sure, they are willing to make changes when things aren't working. The Vikes are in good hands.... assuming they get a stadium deal done, of course.

[zepman]

He is the general manager. His job is to oversee operations and I would think that also includes approving what coaches are interviewed and then taking the recommendation higher up for approval. However, I would be very surprised if he didnt have the authority to hire assistant coaches. If Speilman didn't have a hand in this in some fashion then what good is this new GM position?

Morris must be another one of Leslies 'buds'...just like the other two winners, McNabb and Singletary. LOL!

IMO, Spielman should have control over the head coach...whether he gets fired or not. In NO WAY should Spielman concern himself with the assistants on Fraziers staff. He, or the Wilf's, have trusted him enough to keep him on as head coach and with that comes the autonomy of picking his whole staff.

Whitesox Ozzie is now coaching in Florida because the front office thought they could pick his pitching coach. Stuff like that just doesn't fly.`

[fishersofmen]

This is a positive move for the Vikings organization. Spielman now has the final say in all player personel transactions and, therefore, will be held accountable to our success/failure in this area. He'll be forced to do his very best work and we'll find out soon enough how good he is. We're moving in the right direction.

We'll find out soon enough "how good he is"...

Just ask Miami, 4-12 ring a bell? The worst record experienced by the Dolphins since the time they were an NFL team was under the guy who will move the Vikings in the right direction.

[LMITOUT]

It was just a PR move to give people without a brain the idea that the team has made some defining changes. He said himself what happens with Leslie Frazier is up to the owners and what happens with the assistant coaches is up to Frazier. In other words Speilman is basically in the same position he has been in. He does not have the same power a GM would typically have according to his own words. The owners of this team have no clue what they are doing and assume Vikings fans are complete idiots.

What he said.

[FutbolGuru]

You're right guys... let's just keep firing our entire coaching staff and front office after every losing season! That is a sure fire way to win a superbowl!!

... Rome wasn't built in a day... Let's give these guys some time before writing them off. The Vikes were one of the best teams in the NFL minus a QB in 2008 (bc Childress, not Spielman, was insistent on sticking with TJack).

Spielman broght in JA, AP, and Percy... The last time I checked these are 3 of the best players in the NFL.

Even if you don't like him, you still have to view this as a good move, because now he'll be held accountable for his transactions. If he blows next year's draft he'll have nowhere to hide. Then you rubes can call for his head.

[RiverFish]

You're right guys... let's just keep firing our entire coaching staff and front office after every losing season! That is a sure fire way to win a superbowl!!

... Rome wasn't built in a day... Let's give these guys some time before writing them off. The Vikes were one of the best teams in the NFL minus a QB in 2008 (bc Childress, not Spielman, was insistent on sticking with TJack).

Spielman broght in JA, AP, and Percy... The last time I checked these are 3 of the best players in the NFL.

Even if you don't like him, you still have to view this as a good move, because now he'll be held accountable for his transactions. If he blows next year's draft he'll have nowhere to hide. Then you rubes can call for his head.

Only problem is those are the only three players they have, rest of the team is terrible. The Vikes will soon see how really terrible Spielman is.

[LMITOUT]

Quote:

CBS Sports' HSOforum reported that former St. Louis Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo; interim Jacksonville Jaguars coach Mel Tucker; and Vikings linebackers coach and assistant head coach Mike Singletary are lined up to interview for the coordinator's spot.

Spagnuolo now???

Apparently the Vikings are not only stopping at bringing in washed up QB's, but coaches as well.

If Leslie is behind this then he should be fired as should Spielman for allowing it to happen.

[koonie]

Spagnuolo now???

Apparently the Vikings are not only stopping at bringing in washed up QB's, but coaches as well.

If Leslie is behind this then he should be fired as should Spielman for allowing it to happen.

[LMITOUT]

But you do?

LOL

[RiverFish]

Koonie,

Please explain why a losing coach would be a great hire? He had a 10-38 record with the rams. The rams Def gave up the 25th most points in the nfl this year.

What is Spagnuolo going to do with the Vikes D?

Bring in a winner, not Spagnuolo.

[james_walleye]

Must have been a reason the rams brought him in to be head coach. Must have been a decent D coordinater for the giants .....

[Rick]

I like the idea of spags or morris as our d-coordinator koonie.

[Rick]

I like the idea of spags or morris as our d-coordinator koonie.

I'm still not happy with not dumping Chili and not keeping Tomlin instead

[TR21HP]

Honestly a coach is as good as the player talent he has, no matter how good a coach you are if you have substandard talent no system is going to work. Not all coordinators become great coaches. There's a big difference between being a coordinator and a head coach. A head coach will oversee offensive and defensive schemes but usually trusts his staff to implement the right scheme and he will try to make adjustments during the game, along with the coordinators, but that sometimes doesn't work as intended as well. To just blindly criticise without offering any solutions ,Lmitout, isn't very productive either. By all means I welcome your opinions but treat them as just that. And yes, I do have experience to base my opinions on. As far as Tomlin,he blantantly got outcoached this weekend and his coaches had a very poor offensive and defensive game plan. Granted he had a lot of injuries during the game but he was quoted that they shouldn't be considered an excuse.

[LMITOUT]

To just blindly criticise without offering any solutions ,Lmitout, isn't very productive either.

[james_walleye]

I think you misunderstood what he said. Everything is don't don't don't. What should they have done instead? If you don't bring in mcnubb or draft a qb what do you do? You also werent a fan of junkson. Just curious which way they should have went?

[Getanet]

Spags was a great D coordinator when the Giants won the SuperBowl. I'd personally love to see him as our next D coordinator. Not having a winning record as a head coach on a bad team doesn't mean anything when it comes to being a coordinator. Some guys are simply better at coaching one side of the ball than managing the entire team.

[TR21HP]

Lmitout,

Wasn't front office but I did play pro football so if thats a weighted opinion so be it. basically saying I experienced football at a different level than most people on this forum but as you and I agreed it's just an opinion. Definitely not a homer either as I enjoy football for the game it is,a fast, violent and graceful sport.

[koonie]

Must have been a reason the rams brought him in to be head coach. Must have been a decent D coordinater for the giants .....

Bingo! Exactly right. At least somebody has a clue.

[koonie]

Koonie,

Please explain why a losing coach would be a great hire? He had a 10-38 record with the rams. The rams Def gave up the 25th most points in the nfl this year.

What is Spagnuolo going to do with the Vikes D?

Bring in a winner, not Spagnuolo.

Do some research and figure it out. Get back to me you when you have a clue.

[koonie]

But you do?

LOL

Obviously I've got a much better idea than you. Do some research instead of spewing more uninformed drivel. And now I'm done with you. Good day.

[LMITOUT]

Obviously I've got a much better idea than you.

Anxiously waiting to hear some.

[RiverFish]

Koonie,

No need to get excited. I was interested in why you think Spags would be a great hire?

The NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league, example being the Polians in Indy. I don't think Spags has done anything in the last 3 years to warrant a hire from the Vikes. No Defensive talent on the Rams and he had a below average defense. The Vikes have no talent on Defense, what is he going to do?

When Spags coached the Giants they had talent, a lot easier to work with that DEF vs the talent the Vikes have or Rams have.

[james_walleye]

I guess I don't understand that. If they are going to bring someone in it might as well be someone with a good track record as a defensive coordinater. He IS a good coordinater. A lot of good coordinaters aren't good head coaches. What happened in St. Louis as a HC has no bearing on how he would fair as the vikings DC. What is ANY coordinater going to do with subpar talent? So we should hire someone with no track record and hope he can do something with no talent? I'd LOVE to see this hire. With his past he's got a better chance of doing more with less than anyone else available.