Packers vs Vikings

[mrklean]

Love it 9-0 tough schedule comin up thanksgiving game is gonna be huge for the pack keep it goin

[RiverFish]

Love it 9-0 tough schedule comin up thanksgiving game is gonna be huge for the pack keep it goin

The game after the Turkey Day game will be even more tough. On the road against the Giants.

"I don't want to work, I just want to bang on the drums all day"

[Steve Foss]

I have to say I got a great kick out of Gruden. He's railing on how bad the Pack defense has been, and then, after a couple plays in which the defense stuffed AP and/or got to Ponder, he's railing on how the Vikes Oline really needs to suck it up.

Ummmmm, earth to Gruden . . . . seven points scored against the Pack (and those off a doofus fumble by Cobb) spells good defense. Eh?

And was it just me, or was it Gruden's voice I heard like 98 percent of the time?

[RiverFish]

Don't get too excited Steve, the Packers Defense played decent against a terrible team. A good step in the right direction though.

Go Pack.

[LMITOUT]

[Steve Foss]

Don't get too excited Steve, the Packers Defense played decent against a terrible team. A good step in the right direction though.

Go Pack.

You sensed excitement?

Let's be clear. The Vikes are not terrible. Not the greatest, but not terrible. And apparently memories are short. Last time we played them, they scored how many points against the same defense we put on the field tonight?

Really, Riverfish?

Nope, it wasn't a stellar defensive performance by the Pack. But it showed marked improvement.

[MNice]

We are light years behind the pack, from the ownership, front office and the players. Not a good future in vikingland....

[RiverFish]

Steve,

Sorry I misread your post.

But let's be clear the Vikes are a terrible team. They have 2 wins against the Cardinals and Panthers, not great wins. They basically have one player on each side of the ball, AP and J. Allen. They are not even an average team, they have lost their last 9 games in their division. They are terrible.

[RiverFish]

Thanks LMITOUT.

That song put a smile on my face.

Go Pack.

[hawgchaser]

Hang in there, Vikes fans. In a dozen years, Rodgers will be 40 years old. Maybe you can snag another downhill QB to give you a temporary thrill! CAN'T WAIT!!!

[Steve Foss]

RF, I know the Vikes aren't a really good team, but I'd stop short of calling them terrible. They have a lot of potential and I saw some good things from them on the field last night. I don't know if Frazier or Ponder are the right guys, but I think there'll be a much better read on that by the end of next season.

And the Pack defense looked much more solid last night than it did against the very same team a couple short weeks ago.

Just the way I look at it.

Kinda funny, two Packers fans arguing over how bad the Vikings are.

The Vikes also had some good defensive stuff going on up front, but it was very uneven. Rodgers certainly took his share of lumps, but quite often he had the time to look through four or more possible receivers, and he tore the Vikings secondary apart. I laughed out loud when they gave Allen that first sack of the game. Guess it'll go into the stat book one way or another.

I gotta say I was sick of Gruden after about 10 minutes. I'd never heard him call a game before. Well, if you could call it calling a game. We already know he can worship ad nauseum at the altar of the almighty quarterback, but he may need a bit of remedial work on sports calling/commentary.

Got so bad that I actually looked FORWARD to the commercials. Sheesh.

[Jim Uran]

As a Vikes fan I can say that we played horrible last night. The first half, the defense did a good job at keeping that offense in check.

I really like what I'm seeing from Ponder, his ability to scan the field and make a quick read is awesome. If he had a little more time in the pocket or out of the pocket for that matter he would be deadly. I feel good about him being our qb for a while!!

The Pack have an awesome team, Those wide outs are too much for any defense to handle.

[nolte]

As a Vikes fan I can say that we played horrible last night. The first half, the defense did a good job at keeping that offense in check.

I don't want kick a fan base when they're down but the D was worse than the score indicated. They realistically only stopped them once in the first half. They stopped them on a 3 and out in the second quarter. The other punt was when they were backed up at the 3 with like 3 minutes to go. With a 17 point lead in that situation the offense is going to play as vanilla as possible. All you want to do is try to run some time off the clock. They also had a kneel down drive to end the half.

[Dylan33]

49-2.

wow...LMITOUT was pretty close!

[JeffB]

If you look at the stats this should have been about a 10 point game and not nearly so one sided, but good teams like Green Bay capitalize on drives and yards earned with TD's and the vikes again managed to blow nearly every opportunity that came there way. It interesting how one team can dish out suck a beating on the score board while only gaining 90 more yards of total offense. Last game viks outgain the pack in total yards and still lose by a touchdown.

[JosMN]

If you look at the stats this should have been about a 10 point game and not nearly so one sided, but good teams like Green Bay capitalize on drives and yards earned with TD's and the vikes again managed to blow nearly every opportunity that came there way. It interesting how one team can dish out suck a beating on the score board while only gaining 90 more yards of total offense. Last game viks outgain the pack in total yards and still lose by a touchdown.

Not really sure what opportunities you speak of? I thought our defense held you guys in check early, and got Ponder rattled with the blitzes Capers was sending at him. The Pack dominated in all aspects.

The vikings should not have even scored to be honest, they did because of Cobbs muffed punt. You are right, the Pack does capitalize on drives with points, because they are a talented team. But to think this should have been a 10 pt. game by looking at stats is ridiculous. You are comparing apples and oranges in my opinion as far as talents go. The vikings are not a good team. Ponder may be the answer, but he has zero weapons. GB has made weapons out of no name guys, besides Jennings. It all starts with a talented QB, and Rodgers is by far the best in the league and with the defense looking like they are improving, they are going to be tough to beat. Period.

[nolte]

It interesting how one team can dish out suck a beating on the score board while only gaining 90 more yards of total offense. Last game viks outgain the pack in total yards and still lose by a touchdown.

You can only go 65 yards when you get to start with the ball at the 35. It's hard to pile up the yards when the field is short to begin with. Plus an 80 yard punt return for a TD doesn't count in yards.

The Vikes did have some nice plays with long gains, but then they would just stall. When the Pack got a decent lead it made it darn near impossible to use AP as a workhorse.

[FISHINGURU]

Lets get one thing straight, the Pack are such a good team because of Rodgers. Without him the Pack would be as bad if not worse then the Vikings. They have no running game and the defense is not all that.

Yeah I know you can say that about all the teams with a great QB, look at the Colts just because they lost Manning this season, Pats would be horrible without Brady. Saints without Bree's, ect.

Rodgers makes them over rated WR's really good because of his ability to extend a play. No corner or safety in the NFL can cover a WR for 10 seconds, especially safeties and corners that don't have a right to be on the field like we are starting.

[LMITOUT]

I'm not so sure about that. Flynn drove the field with relative ease and scored a TD as well, and last year when Rodgers was out he gave the Patriots all they could handle at Foxboro. The Packers are a machine.

[BKB]

Overrated WR's??? Now that is just plain funny, I know Vikes fans are bitter but come on man you can do better than that. What receiving corp in the league even compares?

[creepworm]

Dallas Cowboys receivers do not necessarily compare, because they are better. Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, Laurant Robinson, and Jason Witten are better than Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, and Jermichael Finley without a doubt.

[Jim Uran]

Overrated WR's??? Did you see some of those passes those wideouts caught? They MAKE Rodgers look better than he is. Not taking anything from Rodgers, but come on now lol

[BKB]

Creep, maybe it's the guy from Wisconsin throwing them the ball that makes them look better than they really are? What is their record again, oh yeah 5-4.

[JosMN]

Lets get one thing straight, the Pack are such a good team because of Rodgers. Without him the Pack would be as bad if not worse then the Vikings. They have no running game and the defense is not all that.

Yeah I know you can say that about all the teams with a great QB, look at the Colts just because they lost Manning this season, Pats would be horrible without Brady. Saints without Bree's, ect.

Rodgers makes them over rated WR's really good because of his ability to extend a play. No corner or safety in the NFL can cover a WR for 10 seconds, especially safeties and corners that don't have a right to be on the field like we are starting.

As bad if not worse than the vikings? Really.....? COME ON MAAAAAAAAAANNNN

[creepworm]

Creep, maybe it's the guy from Wisconsin throwing them the ball that makes them look better than they really are? What is their record again, oh yeah 5-4.

Are you seriously saying that Tony Romo makes his recievers look better than Aaron Rodgers. I hope that is a joke. It has been shown time and time again that great QB's can make mediocre Wr's look extremely good. Look at Reggie Wayne for example, Great the last however many seasons with Manning, can barely muster up 2 catches a game without him. The better the QB, the better the recievers look. Miles Austin and Dez Bryant would be elite #1 options on most teams. Greg Jennings would be as well but Jordy Nelson would not be. James Jones would probably be a #3 slot reciever on most teams and Jermichael Finley would actually look better on other teams because they would most likely rely on him more.