Trokar hooks

[Comit 2]

Ok will someone tell me what's the point of this hook. I just seems like an answer to a question that has never been asked. I have never had a problem with not being able to set the hook hard enough nor have I ever though to myself "boy is my arm tired from setting the hook". Even with bungy mono! If when fishing and my arm does get tired I switch from baitcaster to spinning gear.

When one hook cost more then a crankbait,,, something is wrong. Good luck with the marketing on this one!

[mainbutter]

I'm in the same boat. Cheaper hooks are sharp enough already, I never have issues with hook penetration.

[Irish]

I agree with you two. There is no need for a hook this expensive I think Gamakatsus are plenty sharp for me. Plus half the fun of bass fishing is crossing their eyes with the hookset!

[Gardiner14]

I have used there EWG hook and i have never lost a fish. With that being said every bass i have caught on them have took the hook deep and there hard to get out, i think it mite be there z-bend or what ever it is. Dont wast your money on them, the only reason i would buy them again is because they have lots of hooks for lots of applications.

[mww24]

to me it seems as one of the ideas to catch fisherman not fish. I have never had a problem with gamakatsu. They will all dull. And I don't think I've ever lost a fish because i couldn't set the hook. If they get off its probably my fault

[DAD-N-EYE]

I think there is no such thing as too sharp of a hook. I also have never had a prob with gamies and last year i even used alot of regular eagle claw lazer hooks just because the barb is that much bigger(and half the price). I guess my only draw back from the hook the fact that there $2 a piece!

[CAMAN]

When one hook cost more then a crankbait,,, something is wrong. Good luck with the marketing on this one!

This is one area where eagle claw failed in their marketing. The package actually contains more than one hook, anywhere from 4-10 I believe, depending on hook style and size. I've actually talked to and seen a few people in the stores who say "10 bucks for one hook!!??!!" Then walk away shaking their head. I admit the package looks like only one hook, but if you sit and read the package it states the exact quantity., which is more than one.

Never used them myself though, my Owners and Gami's are plenty sharp enough for me still.

[Craigums]

I love there straight shank flippin hook!

[sheepheadslayer]

I have heard that the points bend over very easy. I have never owned em and don't see the need.

[walleye365]

That flippin hook is the best iv used. I bought them last year i only used one hook all year never lost a fish.

[kaine]

I use there drop shot hook alot just for the fact once there in you really have to work to get them out which to me is worth a couple extra dollars.

[bucketmouth64]

I was curious about these, so I bought a pack on clearance at FF. Wouldn't pay full price.

[RK]

Hiya -

I've never heard anyone say "my hooks are too sharp." I got some to try and ended up really liking their flipping hook, although more for the overall design than the point specifically. I haven't experienced the point folding over, and they do seem to hold their edge pretty well. For heavy gauge hooks like flipping hooks, I like the concept of a cutting point, which is why I also like Owner flipping hooks. I'm a big fan of Ultrapoint hooks too, but like them better in lighter gauge hooks.

I don't think they're essential, and they aren't vastly superior to any other premium hook out there whether it's Gamakatsu, Mustad, Owner, or Matzuo, but they do work as advertized.

Certainly far superior to what we all fished with 15 or 20 years ago though when all you could get were standard bronze hooks. Through a friend in Arizona with some connections in Japan I and a few other guys were ordering Gamakatsus from Japan before they were available in the US, and we couldn't believe how sharp they were. Can find them at the gas station now...

[slipperybob]

I'll be the first to say, "My hooks are too sharp." LOL's.

I remember the very first few Owner cutting point hooks I used. They were too sharp and they cut big gashes in fish. I had a carp with a three inch throat gash before the hook was leveraged deep enough to stick. I guess I had too weak of a hook set problem and was giving the Owner cutting point hooks a try to get those results. I also had other fish caught with gash cuts before hook point sticked. The Owner hook quality these days have gone down. I can see it in some of the hooks I've bought in more recent years.

I haven't tried any of the Lazer Trokar hooks. I might be repeating what I've found when I first used Owner Cutting point hooks. Only that when I thought Owners were overpriced, now it's the Lazer Trokar hooks.

[Set The Hook]

I still like the Owner Cutting Points. I don't know if Lazer Trokars can perform twice as good as the Owners to match the cost difference.

[TonkaBass]

I would agree with the quality of owners getting worst recently. Never used to have them roll at the tip or dull fast, but now I use a lot of gammys

[kittycatcher16]

Awww let's get it straight....nothing compares to a gammy! I have trouble getting the hook out of the fish with gammys.. no reason to change.

[Larson15]

I do think every hook manufacturer has an "occasional" bad run of hooks. I had a bad run with an economy pack of Gammy EWG hooks last year. They were bending straingt out on hook sets (using 20lb fluro). I started using the superline hooks since then and haven't had any problems. I have been a big fan of the owners as well especially the extra wide gap plus for beavers and tubes. The bait lies really nice on this hook.

I have still not bought into the Trokars yet. I have been using there flippin hook and the new straight shank tube hook and havent been able to tell the difference compared to similar style hooks of other manufacturers.

[EBass]

Gammy's for me as well. I do have some Owners, but I pretty much use Gammy's. The points will roll on them so I do check them often. Well kinda.

[blakjack23]

I actually do think think there is such a thing as a hook that is too sharp. I used some Trokars last year just after they came out. They are great hooks, but due to the fact that they are so sharp they do have a tendency to bend over as others have pointed out. I've gone back to gammys now.

[Superduty]

I'm a Mustad ultra point guy. I have had gammys roll over more than any other hook-I will use them in open water situations but not around rocks, docks, or wood. Have not tried Trokar yet.

[CAMAN]

Was at FF in Lakeville today and noticed they had all their Trokars on clearance for 35% off. Couldn't pass up that deal to try them so picked up a couple packs of the Flippin' hooks. First thoughts of them out of the box, I love the design of the bait keeper, hopefully it stays in place. Also the wire diameter seems perfect, not too thick, not too thin. And man, are they sharp! Yes they are sharper than any of my Mustads, Owners, or Gami's under my 15x magnifying glass, although disappointed one of the hooks came with the hook point already point bent over. Gonna try em this weekend to see how they compare.

[CarlWBL]

The biggest downfall in my opinion is the point of the Trokar's folding over. What I like about Gamma hooks is that I can sharpen them to extend their life.

[KickNBass]

I think I heard once that they fixed the roll over issue, not 100% sure on that.

I think what they are marketing at is the ammount of force required to penetrate.

When I used to work at 3M, I had access to mechanical testing equipment and tested penetrating force of several hooks and found that for the most part it was related to how big the barb was, not how sharp the hook was. Fold over the barb and all of a sudden the force was much smaller. Makes sense if you think about it: psi; the larger your penetrating area, the higher the force.

At that point I figured the sharper the hook point, the more likely you were to catch the hook on the hook set.

Now, a cutting edge could change this game but it's still a point to consider, so to speak.

[gritsnham]

For the price they are not overly special but I can notice the difference between how much power it takes to set. You can get away with a much lighter set than with other hooks (mainly use gamis). I have not used them all that much but they do seem to put a few more in the boat on those awkward sets when the fish aare running or when they are not holding baits long and a wrist snap hookset is easiest and fastest.

Still gonna stick with gami value packs though