Next years QB?

[soldoncass]

When I was in school taking a test, there would be a question with "always" or "never" in it.....the answer was FALSE, because of "always" and "never" If someone is desperate enough..... Remember the Hershal Walker debacle?????? He wasn't WORTH IT either, but............ When I even think about the Eagles having him on the block, it tells me they think their #3 Qb is as good as Kolb.(potentially) Offer them a #5 pick and we'll trade #1's with them for him.....(the scam offers can go both ways).

We have too many needs to move up.....draft bpa, immediate impact guy, for 1st and second round. If their Qb is there they take him, otherwise OL,OLB,DT,S bpa.

[Scott K]

I would assume any trades would involve 2012 picks, so I retract my last post. Although, the Eagles are still going to ask way to much for him, and they wouldnt have any need to trade him after the draft, until after next season. They wouldnt receive any more compensation for him. So unless they are wowed by the offer, I dont see him going anywhere.

[pikestabber]

Kolb is going somewhere this year, that is almost impossible to argue. His value is as high is it will ever be, and Philly is just positioning right now with their "he is so good" and "we won't give him up easily" comments that are slid in here and there to generate interest and raise the price tag. He is worth too much to hold onto for Philly, but unfortunately, whoever gets him will have given up WAY too much on who I feel is an unproven QB. With the uncertainty of a new CBA and how/if/when free agents will be available, draft picks are gold right now, and Philly stands to move up or take extra picks by moving Kolb.

[Scott K]

Players CANT be traded. So draft picks can ONLY be traded for other draft picks.

[FISHINGURU]

They arent my ideal QB's, but they are the realistic ones! What is your propasal, and what do you think we are going to have to give up to get him?

I couldn't care less who we bring in as long as it isn't a proven loser. Bringing failures and headcases in from other teams don't help your team at all. Better off just seeing what the players we have can do besides getting one of them crappers.

[Scott K]

So, your saying go with who we have? Since you couldnt give a realistic name in who is an actual possibility for us. I have no problem with going with who we have. My added Qb's were a list of a few I think we could get on the cheap, that wouldnt cost the team any draft picks, or a minimal one if it did. I also wasnt giving those QB's the starting job, just some one to compete with the youngsters we already have. Let the best player start, the others would either ride the bench, or get cut.

[zepman]

The lack of free-agency and trades before the draft is what makes this years draft all the more interesting.

I can see most teams sticking to a BPA mentality throughout the whole draft.

[soldoncass]

I agree..bpa. I don't think they will be likely to trade 2012 draft spots either...too many uncertainties about that draft even happening. I know I wouldn't accept that on any trade.

[Scott K]

Not until the CBA is settled, in which more then likely wouldnt be until after this years draft.

[james_walleye]

Jake Locker courtesy of our first round pick.

[Scott K]

I am tossed with this years draft. I just dont see a QB that will still be on the board for us, be worthy of the #12 pick. I dont think we should just take the best QB left on the board, when there could be a great OL, DL, CB, WR, LB, that could be an allstar. Or, try to drop into the upper 20's pick, and try to get a 3rd round pick back. Then draft the best available QB.

[soldoncass]

I don't know what type of QB Musgrave likes.....I look for them to identify the ones that fit his mold, and take him at the first chance they have. I'm not a fan of trading down....seems like we would miss out on a blue-chipper, just to get a third round guy. Seems counter productive to me. To me the top two guys are Locker and Mallet, maybe Ponder.....then round two guys, Dalton, Stanzi.There could be a lot of shuffling of draft picks for those second tier QBs, because of all the teams that want one.

[pikestabber]

Players CANT be traded. So draft picks can ONLY be traded for other draft picks.

My mistake. I keep forgetting that. In that case, I believe they will hold onto Kolb only until the CBA is in place, but I think he moves quickly once that happens (definitely before the season starts, whenever that is), and he goes for 2012 draft picks (my main point is that he will fetch more than he deserves for what he has shown thus far).

[Born2Fish]

Vikings held private workouts for both Jake Locker and Cam Newton.

[james_walleye]

Lockers stock is rising mightily. The word is now he also may be a top 10 pick, and almost certainly top 15. He is right in the Viking range, and is certainly not a stretch to take.

[soldoncass]

Vikes are working out all the major Qbs, except I haven't heard one name yet. I think it was Speilman who said they got "blown off" by one at the combine. My 2+2 =4, mind says that may be why they aren't checking out everybody. Some players do NOT want to play certain places.

[soldoncass]

Anyone have a clue which kind of QB Musgrave likes? With Webb we have the athletic scrambler. With Bomar, I think he is similar to Locker. Mallet and Gabbert would be the strong armed pocket passer. Should we have 3 types? OR three with similar traits?

Add Tyrod Taylor to my list for late rounds.

[efishsport]

Locker, Mallet, Ponder are round two qbs--i hope we draft one of those in round two and either a corner or o lineman in round 1

[james_walleye]

Locker is not a round 2 qb any longer. Some of the latest info says he may be off the board by the Vikings first pick.

[Scott K]

Quote:

NFL Network's Mike Lombardi and Charley Casserly both criticized Jake Locker's Wednesday Pro Day for being "too easy."

Locker did focus on the short passing game in the scripted, 42-throw workout, and missed on his only two true deep-ball tries. "Mostly short throws, over the middle," is how Casserly described the Pro Day. "If you're a senior in high school, you'd better have an A-plus in this workout." Lombardi noted "not a lot of decision makers in attendance," which reportedly could indicate that Locker is not high on many teams' draft boards.

This from last night, after his pro day.

[james_walleye]

Feel free to post some of the other stuff.

[Scott K]

ok, here are any posted about him in the last couple days.

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One personnel man tells NFL Network's Albert Breer that Jake Locker would be a good fit for the Redskins.

Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson agrees, and ESPN's Mel Kiper said previously that he "knows for sure" coach Mike Shanahan loved Locker before he opted to stay in school last year. Shanahan's offense is heavy on quarterback bootlegs, and Locker is at his most accurate throwing outside the pocket. Williamson likened Locker to "a cross between Jay Cutler and Jake Plummer."

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Jake Locker completed 40-of-42 passes at the Washington Huskies' Wednesday Pro Day.

It's being reported as 38-of-40 in other places, but we watched the Pro Day and are pretty darn sure it was 40-of-42. Regardless, it was an accurate display, which is exactly what Locker needed after completing a startlingly low 53.92 percent of his career college throws. ESPN 101's Tony Softli predicts that Locker could be a top-ten pick in April's draft.

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Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times doubts the Seahawks are sold on Washington QB Jake Locker enough to select him at No. 25 overall.

O'Neil concedes that he has no "hard, declarative statements" on Locker from the Seahawks' brass. He's just picking up signals with his beat writer antennae. Considering Seattle's West Coast scheme, Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder are more logical candidates. Locker will hold his Pro Day workout Wednesday at 2:00 ET.

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NFL Network's Charley Casserly hasn't spoken with a single team that would select Washington QB Jake Locker in the first round.

Casserly's two biggest knocks on Locker are accuracy and inconsistency in reading defenses. NFL Network colleague Michael Lombardi pointed to a poor pocket sense as Locker's major weakness. "He looks to run so quickly," said Lombardi. "He feels pressure and gets out of the pocket."

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According to NFL Network's Mike Lombardi, some NFL teams have Jake Locker graded as low as the fourth round.

Lombardi doesn't say if these teams have quarterback needs or not. He does concede that some clubs still have Locker with a top-ten overall grade. Added NFL Network's Mike Mayock, "Talking to QB coaches ... the consensus is it's going to take some time (for Locker to develop). A one- to two-year period of time." We still fully expect Locker to go in the top 20.

[zepman]

Locker may go in the 1st round...even in the top 10. Being a CAREER low 50% completion guy, I sure hope we stay away from that. We've got Bohmar who is almost the exact same project already on the team. Bohmar was the starter at Oklahoma as a freshman...he has talent.

IMO, Mallet is the only true legitimate pro-style q-back in this years draft. We're looking for a guy who can WIN a game with 1:20 left on the clock and needs to go 75 yards...I'm sorry, Locker is not that guy.

Locker is terrible in the pocket...that equals FAILURE in the NFL.

[james_walleye]

I heard this same jazz from people when Matt Ryan came out from Boston college. Go look at junksons career completion percentage in college. We saw first hand how numbers translate to the NFL.

[soldoncass]

Mallet is the only one of those three that "may" fall to round 2, due to all the negative rumers flying around.There are too many QB hungry teams for that to happen.