Trading or releasing T-Jack by Friday?

[AWH]

This is true. As long as he's able to stay as healthy as he has over his career, it doesn't really matter who's second and third string. Whoever is demoted to third obviously won't be happy about it. But there's always next year when Favre retires, unretires and retires again!

Aaron

[Rick]

Funny, you three or four are the only ones who think Jackson is worth keeping around. 31 other teams didn't want him. Neither do the majority of the fans. Time to face reality. Try watching a game once instead of just the box score on Monday mornings. Maybe then you'll get a clue on what's really going on with your boy.

I'm still trying to figure out why you say I'm wrong? 31 other teams didn't want him so, yes, it was in the Vikings' best interest to retain him and release Booty. That's just common sense. That doesn't mean they want him on the roster though and will likely dump him the first chance they get. The best thing that can happen now is for some other team to have a QB injury and needs a back up. This means the Vikes could possibly get the best deal for Jackson. Right now he's nothing but dead weight.

Just another packer fan with a distorted trolling post.

[Rick]

Take it for what it's worth, but apparently 31 teams decided Jackson was worthless to them and decided to let the Vikings and Vikings fans stew in their own mess.

A definite half truth by a trolling packer backer

[Rick]

LMITOUT talking about his beloved packers:

Their defense has been absolutely outstanding in preseason, If it carries over into the season they'll be a force to deal with as their offense hasn't lost a step after last year and continue to put up points.

At this point there is no doubt who the best QB is in the NFC North.

leechbait says about the Packs defense

Originally Posted By: leechbait

Yeah they shut out cleveland, but gave up 21 points and 37 points back to back. I wouldn't call that absolutely outstanding

and Here's "jonny to the rescue" - LMIT's statements and answer shows LMITOUT IS a Packer Backer..Note how he uses the "It's pre-season" to defend his beloved packer defense but uses the it's only pre-season to dismiss T-Jacksa success,

Originally Posted By: LMITOUT

Gotta look a little deeper than the bottom-line ticker score to get the whole story there bud, especially during preseason.

How many of you other T-Jack haters with the name calling are truly packer backers?

[PierBridge]

Posted by Jim...

Quote:

I've stated all along the #1 reason Jackson will be traded is because the vikings don't think he is the QB of the future. If he was the QB of the future why wouldnt Booty go then smart guy??

Can't stop laughing at your post Jim, one foot in your mouth after another...keep up the great work!......

So FISHGURU and JAMES did/has Sage really proved he's CLEARLY better than T-Jack?.....

Tarvaris Jackson: 23 of 36 for 305 yards, with 3 TDs and 0 INTs. His rating was 118.4.

Sage Rosenfels: 19 of 31 for 232 yards, with 0 TDs and 1 INT. His rating was 70.9.

I think you 3 stooges need another game plan... It's not that often LIMIT gets boxed in and sounds foolish/desperate. Normally when he's wrong he can at least make it sound like he has a shred of an angle...

Good stuff and HA-HA T-Jack is still on the Team...

I LOVE FishingMinnesota.com!

Go Vikes!

[LMITOUT]

Rick, if I was a Packer fan I would LOVE for the Vikings to keep and start Jackson and I wouldn't be calling for his head!

So your theory is a little flawed. Sorry!

[LMITOUT]

More meaningless stats Pier? I really didn't think you'd sink to that level and knew better.

[Shack]

We have the IRONMAN at the helm, we won't even need a second stringer this season, well, maybe the 2 Packer games when the Vikes are up 40-0, they might throw in the second guy to give Brett some rest

We do not even need a D-fence

[Rick]

LMITOUT talking about his beloved packers:

Their defense has been absolutely outstanding in preseason, If it carries over into the season they'll be a force to deal with as their offense hasn't lost a step after last year and continue to put up points.

At this point there is no doubt who the best QB is in the NFC North.

leechbait says about the Packs defense

Originally Posted By: leechbait

Yeah they shut out cleveland, but gave up 21 points and 37 points back to back. I wouldn't call that absolutely outstanding

and Here's "jonny to the rescue" - LMIT's statements and answer shows LMITOUT IS a Packer Backer..Note how he uses the "It's pre-season" to defend his beloved packer defense but uses the it's only pre-season to dismiss T-Jacksa success,

Originally Posted By: LMITOUT

Gotta look a little deeper than the bottom-line ticker score to get the whole story there bud, especially during preseason.

[Rick]

I've stated all along the #1 reason Jackson will be traded is because the vikings don't think he is the QB of the future. If he was the QB of the future why wouldnt Booty go then smart guy??

Originally Posted By: PierBridge

Can't stop laughing at your post Jim, one foot in your mouth after another...keep up the great work!......

So FISHGURU and JAMES did/has Sage really proved he's CLEARLY better than T-Jack?.....

Tarvaris Jackson: 23 of 36 for 305 yards, with 3 TDs and 0 INTs. His rating was 118.4.

Sage Rosenfels: 19 of 31 for 232 yards, with 0 TDs and 1 INT. His rating was 70.9.

I think you 3 stooges need another game plan... It's not that often LIMIT gets boxed in and sounds foolish/desperate. Normally when he's wrong he can at least make it sound like he has a shred of an angle...

Good stuff and HA-HA T-Jack is still on the Team...

I LOVE FishingMinnesota.com!

Go Vikes!

Originally Posted By: LMITOUT

More meaningless stats Pier? I really didn't think you'd sink to that level and knew better.

Yeah, why let meaningless facts get in the way of a packer fans opinions

[fishin58]

Wow, good stuff some of you!!!

Fact of the day, I went out fishing and got skunked for the first time in 3 years. Dang .79 spinnerbait just didnt make the cut!

Lets put this to bed and lets all be happy TJ is on our sideline holding the clipboard until late in the year when he has to step in for Bert!!

[gr8icefishinmind]

Not only step in but lead the vikes to the superbowl!!! That loss last year in the playoffs has made t-jack hungry for redemption......look out nfc cause t-jack and a.p. are coming for ya!!!

[LMITOUT]

lets all be happy TJ is on our sideline holding the clipboard

All ten of you?

[RumRiverRat]

Wow The TJack Kool Aid is strong in this thread.

[gr8icefishinmind]

Doesn't bother me he is on the sidelines! Hopefully he can be on the sidelines a whole season and watch favre play, it would be good for him! But if duty calls, i think he will be ready to rock!!

[FISHINGURU]

people that want junkson on the vikes are opposing NFL North fans....packer fans (rick), bear fans (pier), and lion fans (fishin58) would love if tjunk was our starting qb so we could barely scrape by then get smoked in the playoffs,if we even could get there with junkson at the helm!! meanwhile secretly hoping their teams win the division!!

nice try ladies

[Mudcutter]

biggest of all VIKes fans and follow them like none-other.

FAvre is the best choice. BUT -- if he gets hurt and can't play (I hope he will be honest) I think T-JAck is the 2nd best option---better than Rosenfels. Point is- I don't care about who I like the best or what it means to the coaches or whoever, I want the Vikes to put the best players on the field at each posistion as long as possible. But a healthy TJ is better than an injured Favre,, and TJ is better right now than sage.-- simply been around the off longer. IN 8 weeks, that might be differnt. Booty-- sucked. He was the worst USC QB in the last 9 years.

[zamboni]

Booty might have been the worst USC QB in 9 years, but I would rather be a bad USC QB than the best Alabama State Div II QB

[LMITOUT]

Booty might have been the worst USC QB in 9 years, but I would rather be a bad USC QB than the best Alabama State Div II QB

[AWH]

If that's a box against yourself, I agree! Once again, more proof that you have the guy set out for failure before he steps foot on the field. Now being the BEST is a strike against the guy. Wow! Proof that the guy could do no wrong and it still wouldn't be good enough for some people. Discussions with people like this are pretty pointless because they're only capable of seeing one side. Is this what we call an objective viewpoint? I will admit, it's humorous to see that people are this unwilling to be objective. But wow!

Aaron

[LMITOUT]

Quote:

more proof that you have the guy set out for failure before he steps foot on the field

Before he steps on the field? He's been failing for FOUR YEARS!!! What more proof do you need, for crying out loud? I'm not sure what case you're trying to make, because I'll fully admit this guy is a failure. I think I've made that pretty clear!

Quote:

Now being the BEST is a strike against the guy.

Being the best? Best is subjective when you're comparing two turds. That's like asking which is the best between a Chevette and an Ford Escort.

The experiment is over. All we've heard for three years is that he's a developmental player and a work in progress. Now the excuse to buy him MORE time is that he'll sit behind Favre and learn from the Great One. Yeah right. Jackson is dog meat and in all reality should have never been drafted in the first place. Time to cut their losses and regroup.

And you want to talk about objective?? I'm not even a Vikings fan. How much more unbiased can you get? As I said earlier, if I truly hated the Vikings I would be taking YOUR side of this discussion and root for Jackson to stay on the roster and even better yet, play!

[FISHINGURU]

lol your a funny character AWH

[Shack]

Ah LIMTOUT is not even a Green Bay fan either

Quote:

Being the best? Best is subjective when you're comparing two turds. That's like asking which is the best between a Chevette and an Ford Escort.

Jackson is an Escort and Sage is a Chevette! They dropped the Chevette years ago when they knew it was a failure, could not compete with the Escort, and most of all the public lost interest (76-1987). The Escort model was in great demand and produced for many years (81-2003) It is still a car people are looking for Therefor the Escort, by production numbers and consumer feed back, was the best

But you always get a former Chevette owner screaming "they never gave it a chance" once in a blue moon in an on-line chat forum. I feel sorry for that person. Comparing a Chevette to a Ford escort is like a person throwing knives while doing a drive-by

You just have to wonder what in the world where they thinking?

[wishing for walleyes]

All i can say is the last couple of seasons i have shut the tv off alot of times when the vikings were playing.Quess why?????

[AWH]

Once again, you prove my point. You are writing the guy off as if it's absolutely impossible for him to succeed. This isn't a MN Viking issue. So whether you're a fan or not is completely irrelevant. This is a person issue, and one that you clearly are not unbiased on.

When I say, "before he steps on the field", I am not talking about what he's done in the past. He WILL step on the football field again in the future. This is what I'm talking about. You have him written off as a failure in future games before they happen. The guy can't win in your eyes, no matter what he does. Again, how can this be labeled as objective?

Here's a dictionary definition of objective for you. Maybe you can tell me how your view fits this.

a. uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices: an objective critic.

b. Based on observable phenomena; presented factually

When you are basing FUTURE performance on who he is (or what he's done in the PAST) and not what he does, how is this objective?

Has he been highly successful up to this point? Absolutely not. I happen to believe that he can be. But will he be? I don't know and there's only one way to find out, and that's to watch his future performances. Writing someone off before it happens is not objective. How can this even be argued? He's still in the league, he's still young, and he still has opportunity in front of him.

I could understand writing him off if his level of play was stagnant or falling off. But answer this one question. What is your evaluation of his level of play on the field from day 1 to where we are currently at? We know what you think of his play in general, and that's fine, I think we can all respect that opinion whether we agree with it or not. I'm talking about his progression, or lack there of. Has he continued to get worse? Has he continued to improve? Is his play today the same as it was back in 2006? I also do not think the answer here can be argued. But I AM curious as to what your opinion is on this.

Aaron