New Wheelhouse Building Project 2009.

[mediocrates67]

sorry, on a popular auction site

[DRH1175]

I am too builing a house this year. I was wondering what others are doing as far as outside sheathing. I will be using the Aluminum rv siding. Do you need to put some sheathing on the outside or does the siding provide enough support?

[epkirkman]

I did not put any sheating on mine, I used 20 ga. 4 inch flat strap run diagnol for support. Where I did not hit a stud, I used shorter tec screws about every 12". I drug my shack for 4 hours at 70 mph on the interstate with no problems at all.

[dukhntr]

EP: Where did you get the "20 ga. flat strap"?

Thanks,

dukhntr

[epkirkman]

I work commercial construction, we use it all the time. Any place that sells metal studs will have it.

To be honest, I took it off a wall we were tearing out in an old Osco building.

Here are some pics of the inside of my house after we framed it...you can probably pick this stuff up at any homesupply store and it doesn't have to be heavy gauge, you could use 25 gauge or 22 gauge with no problem.

[mediocrates67]

i need advice on what to put under my vinyl siding. what have people done in the past?

[mediocrates67]

anyone? what should i be putting between my studs and vinyl siding?

[SapperACE]

That's why, personally, I'm not a big fan of vinyl siding on a fish house. If you're gonna use it, you'll have to sheet the house with some sort of plywood to insure the house will be rigid enough to pull across a rough lake. Somthing 1/2 inch thick should be good enough though.

I would consider saving yourself the hastle, spend a little bit more $$$, and get some type of quality sheeted siding. Smooth aluminum (the most expensive), for example, would cost about $1000 to sheet a house that size. You'll probably have $300-$500 in plywood. Sheeted siding will last longer, look better, and be much more durable. I've seen vinyl chip and crack in the cold, and blow right off a house at highway speed. Just my my 2 cents.

[gonefishing70]

You could use luan a real thin board 4x8 sheet. On my 8'x 16' I did vinyl sideing I didnt use anything between it and the studs. to help keep the wieght down. I let my insulation and paneling on the inside strengthen the structure. it is 5 years old now I have pulled it many miles and havent had a problem. hope this helps.

[mediocrates67]

i have free siding and thats what i'm gonna have to use budget wise. i don't want to put 1/2 inch osb on because it will be very heavy. i need to put something in there because i don't want to spray foam directly to the siding. if i just put some paneling on between siding and studs will i have moisture problems? if i do that should i put some poly or tyvek-type material between?

[gonefishing70]

If you are useing spray foam insulation, Then yes I would use some type of wrap. since your not useing any sheeting between make sure you use stong paneling on the inside. To make it rigid. I am no expert for sure Its just the way I did it and havent had any problems. And yes you have to be carefull as to not break the sideing in the cold.

[mediocrates67]

so what kind of gas lines should i run in the house? strictly copper or is there something better? i need them for my stove, furnace and mantle lights.

[hawkeye43]

You should think about building the house from the inside out. frame the walls and put your paneling on the walls, stand the wall then do the roof. then you can put everything where you want it. easier to put things in you may have forgot about. Your spray foam guys will love not having to tape off everything and clean up.

[landscaper]

well said HAWKEYE43

do the inside first then put on the siding or whatever you got

[mediocrates67]

Finally have my frame. Unfortunately it took a few weeks longer than the welder said and I've come to realize some things...like he's a crazy convicted felon. He jipped me on some things with the frame and now I have spent an extra $400 to get it taken care of. I will upload some pics as soon as I figure it out.

Just a lesson for some of you others, as I am new to this and got hosed. Make sure you see the shop and examples from a reputable welder before you get into a frame!

I'm still hoping to have this thing done within a month so I can get it out at least once in March.

Stay tuned...

[tonkapat]

best bet would be to take your time do it right. You have all summer to work on it.

[Insp Gadget]

I agree with tonkapat .... take your time, fish outside in march or from the porty. If the frame ain't right, you'll have more and more trouble.

Do the inside, then spray the foam and side it.

As for gas, copper all the way and don't hide or spray over any compression fittings. If you are going to have connections hidden, I recommend only silver soldered and then tested joints. you can do that yourself if you don't know how, see any local plumber, then can tell you.

[SapperACE]

I agree pat and gadget. If you hurry on that house you will be sorry. I'm building my 4th fish house right now, and I've had to learn many lessons the hard way. The biggest lesson I've learned is to take my time.

The seconed lesson was that you get what you pay for. Everytime I have tried to save a few bucks, it has usually came back to bite me later.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune with the frame mediocrates. I'm glad to hear you're getting the frame fixed right though. The frame will be the "foundation" for your house, and is the most important part of a quality fish house.

[bassislife]

Who was the crook that built your fish house frame? Let us all know so none of us get burnt!!!!!

[mediocrates67]

not sure if the forum policy will let me say who, but it was a welder in Walker, MN. you would think that someone you can find on the internet and yellow pages would be alright. i guess i'm just lucky my deposit didn't just disappear.

[mediocrates67]

trying to add photo via facebook, not sure if this will work.

[mediocrates67]

trying again

[mediocrates67]

ok, got it now.

[mediocrates67]

from the previous photos...the first couple were before i had it fixed. there was angle iron on the front V that was holding the lp holder...you could lean on it and almost snap it off. so i had a different welder cut it off and put tube steel on.

also they beefed up the spindles a little too by adding gussets the the top and rear.

but note how the original welder put the leaf springs on. there is no pin going through the hole in the front, just a pin to hold the spring down. he put the cable through the front and the spring wouldn't even go down all the way.

i have a welder fixing that this weekend, he'll put the pully underneath and weld a couple arms beside the leaf spring hole so that it works right.

all in all i'd say i'll have an additional $500 into this after I got it back from the original welder. what a joke!

[Big Buck Buster]

I sure hope that the builder put a grease zerk in the pivot arms. You are going to want to be able to grease the pivot points liberally.

Did the builder weld the leaf spring into place inside the arm? I hope not! If you ever have a spring break on it, it will be a real pain to replace it.