Blaze Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 BJB - one question for ya: I love the style and intensity of Pointers, but have not seen any who love to retrieve. Is that common in what you've found? This is one of the reasons I chose to go the German dog route (GSP/DD) - game recovery. Are there lines of EPs that are better retrievers than others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Some do, some don't. I am a big believer in force breaking; then all do. Some of the hardest "mouthed" dogs I have ever seen were pointers. I had a male once literally eat a cock phesant whole in a 30 yd retrieve. I had been the breeder and a buddy owned him and did a bunch of winning (I.E. he had been the local circuits derby of the year)but was not enogh of a all-age dog for Frank. He asked me if I would take him and since I had room I did. He was a dead broke dog but that was the lasttime he retieved. I did have him point dead though. I know one of the guys in NAVHDA that had a Pointer do okay there. Also some of the shoot to retrieve types. I really force broke any dog that had to retrieve; that would be trial GSP & GWP. I found it made a better relationship with me and the dogs so I did it myself on a table and used a stud / bolt end holding the nameplate on the collar as the point of contact. Thus the training aid was always there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rundrave Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I love the style and intensity of Pointers, but have not seen any who love to retrieve. Is that common in what you've found? here are some pics i took today of my youngest GSP. This is his first year on wild birds, I hunted him last year twice at 4mos old but a barb wire fence ruined any early progress. As for retrieving my dogs are mostly natural at retrieving, never been forced fetch but we do a lot of training and retrieving with dockens etc... Anyway this is a mark of a downed bird and a retrieve to hand: i was only able to get out for a short quick hunt after sneaking out of work, but managed 1 bird so it wasnt a bad day. missed the only other rooster i saw all day, but both dogs pointed alot of hens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspman Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I think Blaze was refering to English Pointers which are now commonly called Pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yes, I meant English Pointers. The German dogs typically have some level retrieving desire built in. My GSP hated retrieving unless it was a winged bird, though I never force broke her. My male DD is a retrieving machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Brittanys work well in the upper midwest Point on wild pheasant Nice retreive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Prairie to woods ... hunted back-to-back days ... just me and the Britts. Limit of pheasants (all 3 were MN public land birds) and next day a couple of grouse in a 3 hour afternoon hunt (& I missed 4 others). Britts handed the transition better than I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Miller Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Brittman-Where are your dogs out of? I love that roan look on the one... both great looking dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ben's Brittanys in Leroy. MN. Ben posts on this site as Kentuck_Ike. My roan Bonnie simply has the best nose I have seen on a dog. Ike is my dog's sire. She has now figured out how to pin running roosters in the cattails Great family dog too. ... she sleeps in bed with one of my children every evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 NICE PICTURES BRITTMAN!!!!!!!!!I had to let my Brittany, Bella, jump up on my lap and see the pictures of her siblings!Bella is out of Ike and Babe and I couldn't be happier with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Ike & Babe litter born in early Feb 2005. What litter did your Bella come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyfishwilldo Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Wow you Britt guys really have me pumped. I will be getting one from Bens Rebel and Pepper this spring. Im really hoping for a tri color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Quite now ... If too many of Ben's pups are hunting in MN - the number of roosters will fall off to much ... Ben needs to sell his dogs out of state more.... ... kidding Looks like Pepper has the same parents as Bella and my Bonnie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Ike & Babe litter born in early Feb 2005. What litter did your Bella come from? Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I forgot that I posted in this thread. Bella is out of Ike and Babe born 8/28/07.She has turned out to be a very good fishing buddy also while ice fishing in our nice warm HSOList.Maybe we need to get the dogs together someday for some hunting and playing. I am sure Bonnie could teach Bella a thing or 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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quijibo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I love my Red Setter, he is as energetic in the field as he is lazy in the house. He also loves the water as evidenced by the Tullibee retrieve in my avatar. The only complaint that I have is that in 3 1/2 yrs he hasn't found a single bird. I have gotten over 40 birds and he has at least a few dozen field mouse points. If I could figure out how to make Pheasants smell like mice he would be the perfect hunting companion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConrad Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Pretty funny.... A dog that loves to point mice... I have been around alot of dogs in training and this is a first... At 3.5 yrs old I think he is pretty set in his ways. I would love to have him at our Kennel and try to see what we could do with him as far as Pheasants. I guess I am always open to a challenge...I wish you the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamwv Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Wow you Britt guys really have me pumped. I will be getting one from Bens Rebel and Pepper this spring. Im really hoping for a tri color. anyfish,We're getting one from the same litter. We're also hoping for a tricolor (thats why we picked Rebel/Pepper). Don't think we're in direct competition though, as I am looking for a male.Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 My Britt still points grasshoppers all summer long ... the king that fly away... follow and point again. In ND where grasshoppers run 1000 per acre she did not even notice they were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyfishwilldo Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 [quote name='adamwvWe're getting one from the same litter. We're also hoping for a tricolor (thats why we picked Rebel/Pepper). Don't think we're in direct competition though' date=' as I am looking for a male.Adam [/quote']Did you go down there and take a look at his stock? That Star tri was one of the best looking dogs Ive ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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