MUSKYMAN1011 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 In the State of Minnesotacan I put out Feeders for Deer? Before the season? During the season?What is legal ? what is not legal?Thanks in advanceBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstroke Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 In general deer feeders are legal in MN.However, any deer feeding is considered baiting if the feed material is not removed at least 10 days in advance of hunting. I hope someone can bring the exact words, cause I don't know if its when YOU hunt or when the season starts. You are not allowed to be feeding during the season, unless I suppose you can remove the excess feed and wait 10 days to hunt again. The only legal attractants you can use while hunting are scents and minerals. No food product is allowed, that includes minerals or scents with food in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcornice Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 It's when you hunt. Here's the language from pg. 71 of the book:• “Bait or feed” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable of attracting or enticing deer and that has been placed by a person.• Hunters are not allowed to use or hunt over bait or feed or hunt in the vicinity of bait or feed if the hunter knows about or has reason to know about the placement of the bait or feed.• A person otherwise in compliance with this section who is hunting on private or public property that is adjacent to the property where bait or feed is present is not in violation if the person has not participated in, been involved with, or agreed to baiting or feeding wildlife on the adjacent property.• An area is considered baited for 10 days after complete removal of the bait or feed.• Liquid scents, salt, minerals, and bird feeders containing grains or nuts that are at least 6 feet above the ground are not considered bait or feed.• This restriction does not apply to foods resulting from normal or accepted farming, forest management, wildlife food plantings, orchard management, or similar land management activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wettschreck Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 lcornice, thank you for the clarification. That's the type of info sharing that makes FM the great site it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstroke Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Thanks LC. I knew you'd come to the rescue with the correct language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcornice Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigginjim Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thanks LC, The new buzz would be, What is in the vicinity, 150ft, 200ft 400ft. If the guy next door places hay and apples on his land, but it is closer to my deerstand than his that could mean I have to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcornice Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thanks LC, The new buzz would be, What is in the vicinity, 150ft, 200ft 400ft. If the guy next door places hay and apples on his land, but it is closer to my deerstand than his that could mean I have to move. That would be up to the officer. Certainly, if you come up on a bait pile, I'd run far away and make sure I wasn't anywher near the thing. No point taking chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinmajishin Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 If it's on your neighbor's land how could a CO do anything about it? You aren't supposed to trespass and therefore have no knowledge of it. "Geewhiz...he's feeding deer?" I wouldn't be changing my stand location on account of the neighbor. If he's got a stand he's hunting there, he's the one getting pinched. If he's legally feeding, I'd at least keep my stand beyond eyesight of it to confirm you haven't seen it. A friend of mine's next door neighbor feeds the deer. A non-hunter. Probably 150 yards from the best spot to put his stand. What's he gonna do, not hunt his own land? He'd be sitting there, feed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shack Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Quote: What's he gonna do, not hunt his own land? He'd be sitting there, feed or not. Up until last year, he would have been in violation no matter what by the way the old regs where worded. Like lcornice said, I think the end result would be up to the CO if a person would be in violation or not. With the eye in the sky, it is nice to know what you neighbor is doing, or maybe not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinmajishin Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I've never fed deer or have had neighbors feeding either, so I guess I never really checked into the previous regs. I just meant that if I had an established stand location and the neighbor was insistent on feeding the deer relatively nearby, I would have a hard time changing my location on his account. Seems like b*lls**t that I would be responsible for my neighbor's actions. But I guess item #3 on Icornice's quote from pg. 71 pretty much clears it up,or am I reading it wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwieler Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 fishinmajishin is right, your neighbor could stack corn 10ft high as long as your not part of it your ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJrkr Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 i dont know for sure about that.. i think its kinda up the discretion of the game warden. if thats the case i could pay the neighbor for the cost of corn and have him put all kinds of it across the fence line and then hunt it.. the game warden wouldnt know you told him to put it there.the real question is how the new mineral law will come into effect. 6 feet off the ground? how do you hang mineral 6 feet off the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwieler Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 but then you would have a part in it. i think the rule is intended for hunters whos neighbors dont want them to hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJrkr Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 well ive got a few neighbors like that... hopefully they do the work for me! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shack Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I was making a funny with my post, but before the reg change last year a hunter was in violation if hunting over a game path that led to a bait pile on a neighbors land, whether he/she knew about the bait pile or not. The regulation change has loosened things up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJrkr Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Well it really shouldnt matter is you know or not, because whos call is it if you really know? like i said, it would be pretty easy to have the neighbor put a big pile of corn 100 yards from your stand on the other side, and oops, guess i didnt really know it was there. I think this law is gonna make it more easy for dishonest people to manipulate the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKJACK Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Dishonest people are always going to try and find a loophole to the laws. I like to put out a couple of pheasant feeders every year and I would prefer to start them up by Thanksgiving because I feel that the pheasants are still active and will find them easier but since I also bowhunt, I don't start them up until Jan 1, just so I don't have to argue that "I'm not in the vicinity" of a feeder. But if I fill my one and only deer permit by Dec 1, then I will be starting up my feeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSKYMAN1011 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Good Information Guys..! So this stuff they sell at FLEET FARM called "C-More Deer"it is a Powder type attractant is this Legal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shack Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Quote: • Liquid scents, salt, minerals, and bird feeders containing grains or nuts that are at least 6 feet above the ground are not considered bait or feed. Yes it is! I have found they are effective, but it seems to take a week or so and some moisture to seep into the ground or stump and they sure love Deer Cane at night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSKYMAN1011 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thanks for the info Shackbash,But I have to put the stuff 6 feet above the ground to be legal?If I put it on a STUMP I'm breaking the Law? Thats the way I'm reading into this? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJrkr Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I dont know if thats right or not. I would call your local game warden and ask. Alot of these rules are worded so wierdly... it really comes down to how the individual game warden interperets the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shack Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I see what you guys mean . It should have its own sentence or mark. But it does sound like it is tied to its own though and there for legal. Quote: and bird feeders containing grains or nuts that are at least 6 feet above the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerminator Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I would have to say I would call the Tip line or the CO. There are ways to make sure you aren't determined to be the one who turned them in. COs do random checks and flyovers all the time. Welcome them to check your land first and then the neighobor's next so it looks like they are just in the area. See if they can do this before season so it doesn't screw things up during the season. Better safe than sorry. If it smells bad, it probably is. I wouldn't be taking chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcornice Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thanks for the info Shackbash,But I have to put the stuff 6 feet above the ground to be legal?If I put it on a STUMP I'm breaking the Law? Thats the way I'm reading into this? Thanks If it's not bait, then it doesn't need to be 6' off the ground. That provision was written in to allow regular old bird feeding. So, since mineral isn't bait everything else doesn't apply. I hope that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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