Interesting question about Walleyes & regulations

[fisherman-andy]

If you own a body of water surrounded by & on your own private property does the DNR or state law & regulations dictate it? (I already know it does to a certain point) Im just looking for other people's experiences or feedback.

Also just wondering (before I research it myself) that if Walleyes cannot reproduce & spawn in a certain body of water due to unsuitable conditions then why isn't it not continuous open season in public or private waters?

[Liar]

you can own the land around the water but NOT the water. if someone wanted to drop their boat in by hellicopter. they could fish it. The way I understand it.

I dont know for sure about the continous season on lake w/ little or no walleye reproduction. My guess is the cost of managing these lakes individually would be huge, it would require lake by lake regs.

[Team Otter]

Contact the DNR to get a clear answer. I think you'll get a lot speculation and guessing here. As for no closed seasons, again, the DNR often times opens lakes to promiscuous fishing and/or liberalized limits. They have a link to that on their web-site.

[fisherman-andy]

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you can own the land around the water but NOT the water. if someone wanted to drop their boat in by hellicopter.

they could fish it.

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Thats like saying if your raising game animals or birds on your private farm & land someone could come by air and shoot them and take them at will as long as there not on your grounds by foot.

I think one could possibility do that but angling & keeping fish out of that private lake is another whole ordeal without the consent of the owner isn't it?

[youngie22]

I am only guessing w/ some hear say; But I was told it is fully "private" as long as it doesn't have a waterway to get to it. Fished only w/ it's owner this winter and thats his say. The way the regs and laws are written I am sure a lawyer could find loop hole to make it work either way.

[Liar]

it has to do with water andy..... thats just the way i was told a long time ago. You can own the land but not the water on it. like otter said lots of speculation. and it never works to draw parallels. I dont believe you can stock any water without dnr permission. If it were my land i would stock or do whatever I wanted as far as fish goes. Leagal or not who knows? And no it is nothing like shooting game and hovering over your land. Beacuse the point is owning the water. I would like to know if anyone gets an answer from someone that knows that particular law/ statute. I dont know if you can actually "own" game fish "in a body of water. but that is a great question. I am a huge supporter of the people rights. So my opinion would be to shoot the guy from the rope as soon as he climbed out of the chopper with the rod in his teeth.

Dan

[fisherman-andy]

What if it is a artifical man made pond or man made lake? If you dug it, filled it, and stocked it with life shouldn't you be allowed to govern it with legal permission?

I know the DNR requires private owners to have a permit to even stock fish. As it can be a private permit or commercial permit. How is it legal for someone to even access so under a commercial private body of water then if the owner charges for access?

[Liar]

I don't think the DNR could just walk on to your land, and start netting your private lake. Would they have to show probable cause and get a warrant??? So many questions, sounds expensive if it had to be argued in court. homeowner vs. DNR.= lawerys win !!! Now if you charge for access, that may give them some legal loop hole. The state would expect you to pay taxes on the money charged for access .

Dan

[fisherman-andy]

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I don't think the DNR could just walk on to your land, and start netting your private lake. Would they have to show probable cause and get a warrant??? So many questions, sounds expensive if it had to be argued in court. homeowner vs. DNR.= lawerys win !!! Now if you charge for access, that may give them some legal loop hole. The state would expect you to pay taxes on the money charged for access

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Dan

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Due to license permits the DNR has a right to test the water, fish for any problems or diseases. They can also survey it. But they cannot angle or take fish for own personal use as far as I know.

The real question is if the body water is an artificial man made and not a natural pond/lake. Would the same rules apply? Certainly you cant just fly in and dropped a canoe to fish a commercial lake/pond privately owned. I don't think that is possible since it's not natural waters.

[Team Otter]

Please contact the DNR. Thank you.

[fisherman-andy]

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Please contact the DNR. Thank you.

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Did that. Even they weren't clear either. Claims have to be laid in court by a Lawyer & regulations as I found out. It can go either way. The Judge could rule in anyone's favor.

[Team Otter]

Thanks for the update. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[Liar]

The odds of someone flying in to fish it don't seem worth worrying about, at least til someone tries it. The question of man made vs natural is interesting. Hope you get an answer that gives you piece of mind. When you buy a permit to stock fish, where do you buy the fish from?? Does the DNR sell fish to people to stock in their ponds? I have seen private parties raising gold fish for peoples couy (sp?) ponds, but I havent heard of people that raise game fish. Either way I hope it all works out.

Dan

[Liar]

Oh, I just noticed the avatar.. LOL

[fisherman-andy]

Im not too worried about someone flying in to fish a private lake or pond. That's highly unlikely to happen in anyone's case. Im mainly interested in what's legal an not in such a scenario.

(Liar) Permits can be bought to have a private or commercial body of water. The DNR can provide you with everything you need as long as you meet the requirements & pay for your fish you want to stock. They have many programs to fit specific needs.

Again upon research they only way to say what is legal or not is to go through the court system. Thx to all who contributed.

[Bassboy1645]

was wonderign this myself....Can a guy use hipboots or a duck boat to float a small creek into a beaver pond and hunt ducks?? Thats the way I read the regs...Im sure the landowner would be very anal but thats the only thing holding me back....And he couldnt do anything by law if this was legal?? I had a similar situation a few years ago...my bro and I wader fished a section of lake that ran upto the road but there was about a 2 foot strip of land with a dock on it. Several times he called the cops and each time the cop claimed it was his land indeed but said we could fish there becasue it was reachable without setting a foot on his land...Its not as enjoyable to fish or hunt a spot while the landowner is chewing you out even If you are right. Id just as assume go somewhere else and not be bothered. Whats others take on this?? any landwoners here that have an opinion/facts/stories on a similiar thing??

[Meat-Run]

Fisherman-andy,

What is it that you REALLY want to do stock a lake that is on your property of any fish and fish it anytime of the year with out any regulations by the state??? This is coming across as "pishing" no-pun intended but this has been beaten to death and I'm just wondering if your looking for an "OK" to fish and stock as you please on that body of water.

If this is your goal then take the time to put it in writing and ask for explanation from the DNR and go from there. I just wouldn't attempt to do anything on or in that body of water without the consent of the state wether you dug a hole or it was there 1 million years ago just my .02.

Good luck.

mr

[fisherman-andy]

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Fisherman-andy,

What is it that you REALLY want to do stock a lake that is on your property of any fish and fish it anytime of the year with out any regulations by the state??? This is coming across as "pishing" no-pun intended but this has been beaten to death and I'm just wondering if your looking for an "OK" to fish and stock as you please on that body of water.

If this is your goal then take the time to put it in writing and ask for explanation from the DNR and go from there. I just wouldn't attempt to do anything on or in that body of water without the consent of the state wether you dug a hole or it was there 1 million years ago just my .02.

Good luck.

mr

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Pishing??? Not sure what you mean? I expect the speculating. No pun taken but such subject beaten to death or not isn't easily set aside. Im not looking for an OK on anything or trying to draw attention to any subject. I have done some extensive research and have already come to my own conclusion that everything and anything can only be determined if legal or not if its fought through the court & law system.

I am fully aware of what is needed and not needed. Im simply collecting feedback on people's opinion or experiences. The law & regulations isn't always right. I have looked at a few cases on such a similiar subject already but again each is different. Claims can be made by anyone any state. The DNR is not the solution nor do they write the laws. In many incidents the state may lay such ownership or claims and it has been awarded to the proper owner.

As far as the DNR goes all they can do is assist you in the right direction legally. That I already know. I just want understand or know as much as I can if someday I should decide to choose to own such responsibilities cause I surely don't want others ruining what one has work so hard to preserve or keep. No selfishness in that.

Again im not looking for more info on what to do. Just wanting to hear others with experience on such subject for my own good. Thanks to those who contributed.

[fisherman-andy]

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was wonderign this myself....Can a guy use hipboots or a duck boat to float a small creek into a beaver pond and hunt ducks?? Thats the way I read the regs...Im sure the landowner would be very anal but thats the only thing holding me back....And he couldnt do anything by law if this was legal?? I had a similar situation a few years ago...my bro and I wader fished a section of lake that ran upto the road but there was about a 2 foot strip of land with a dock on it. Several times he called the cops and each time the cop claimed it was his land indeed but said we could fish there becasue it was reachable without setting a foot on his land...Its not as enjoyable to fish or hunt a spot while the landowner is chewing you out even If you are right. Id just as assume go somewhere else and not be bothered. Whats others take on this?? any landwoners here that have an opinion/facts/stories on a similiar thing??

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That's the awkward part about the law. Legally they can but there are many factors involved which can be argued. Sometimes because it's legal doesn't always mean it's right. It be out of norm. How you like to hear gunshots repeatedly in your backyard while your children are at play there & find yourself confronting a person who thinks he doing it legally hunting ducks on your pond. What kind of disturbances and dangers can that be that what you thought was private & safe isn't so?

[Team Otter]

The amount of feedback has been enough to say I think we've covered just about every scenario. Let's put this to rest unless there is something else you may come up with.

Thank you.

[fisherman-andy]

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The amount of feedback has been enough to say I think we've covered just about every scenario. Let's put this to rest unless there is something else you may come up with.

Thank you.

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I agree. I thought I had ended it already. There is alot of speculation and it is just that. For future reference please add only to this thread if you've have first hand experience on such an issue. Otherwise let this thread end here.