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3 Deer - 1 Shot


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Read it in the OD news I think. Funny thing is, my son read it, (11), and he said to me, Dad, thats not a good thing to do is it? Knowing what he meant I asked, why not? He said because he was careless in not seeing what was behind the first deer. Kinda makes the old man feel your hopefully teaching goods habits.

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Its good he had 3 tags to lewgally fill, but no ethical hunter should take a shot that doesn't have a clear path in front of and behind your target. Its nearly impossible to get 3 hit in the vital areas with a shot like that. No one mentions if they were hit in the vitals.

A bad shot that got lucky.

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I say good for him...it was his own land..so he knew what was in front of and behind the deer...he had bought enough tags to tag the deer which tells he he wasnt only planning on killing more than one deer that season...its just the manner on how he did it which was incredible...I think its an awesome story and glad he recovered all 3 deer!

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I just read the story. This guy did not try to shoot all three deer; instead he went for one and then found another and then the next day found one more.

Come on - know your shot - know your surroundings - make a clean kill - I doubt he would have known if another hunter was down range of this shot also.

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Read it in the OD news I think. Funny thing is, my son read it, (11), and he said to me, Dad, thats not a good thing to do is it? Knowing what he meant I asked, why not? He said because he was careless in not seeing what was behind the first deer. Kinda makes the old man feel your hopefully teaching goods habits.


mjgrose, I hope you told him what a GREAT answer that was and how he was EXACTLY right about this. Sounds like the young gent is off to a great start at learning good ethics! Congrats.

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Hey Vitalshot...I never ever once did i say i would take the shot did I??? If i did can you send me that quote, so y am i giving hunters a bad name...every siungle thing he did was legal...everything turned out great, and every deer was recovered...Its people like you that jumping all over everyonce else's back about whats right and wrong. That really upsets me here.

Like i said....I never said i would have taken the shot...all i said is good for him...and it all turned out great...so get off my back!!!

The world is full of "what would of happend if this or that" but you know what it didnt happen. All turned out great again i said i would not have take then shot. But like i said I am glad it worked out for him.

And TealitUp...The story said it was on his OWN LAND...so you tell me why he wouldnt know if there were any other hunters down range from his shot. If it were your land, and it was only one deer...would you have taken the shot???? If your answering yes...Then Tekk me what the Difference is???

I still say good for him and thats where i stand!

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I think the main issue here is the unethical shot he took. In this case it turned out ok and he recovered all three deer- luckily. In hunting, as with other things, one NEEDS to consider the "what if's". For exmple, just because someone drives drunk and makes it home and "everything turned out ok" still doesnt make it right. The chanes of it going all wrong, in both cases, is not worth it to me. I summed up my thoughts in my last post.

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How does he not kow his brother was walking around? He helped him gut the deer so I am presuming that he might of been hunting. Even if he thought he was not there how do you know he did not make a late drive to him?

I do not care if you are on your own land or public you must know your backdrop/background.

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you can tell its pure luck by one of the quotes in the bottom of the artical

"Olsen found the third deer - the second yearling - not far away. All three deer had fallen within 50 yards of each other, Olsen said. The bullet had passed completely through the first two deer and a piece of it had lodged in the third deer"

now he says there were only 3 deer, do we know that for sure? No. Will we ever find out? No. Yeah it was his land, but was he on the edge of his land? could the bullet of traveled further than the end of his property line?

All things he should of thought about and didnt, it said it right in the story, Olsen said it was desperate times. He took a desperate shoot at a desperate time and got lucky.

My opinion Totaly Unethical! no question about it, nothing to argue

ShawnnyB

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The article did not say that it was wide open range behind the deer did it??? Not enough information in the story to say that it was a bad shot because of his surroundings (meaning back and foreground) Now how do we know that his brother/son wasnot making a drive to him tealitup??? now that is just rediculous....how can you ask such a question...If you ask yourself that everytime you are about to pulll the trigger i hope you are pychic(sp?) There is no way in heck that one can know if someone is walking around in the woods if you cant see them?? isnt that right??? I mean if i am in the woods the oppurtunity presents itself to shoot a deer or any game for that matter..surroundings are perfect am i suppose to not take the shot..because SOMEONE COULD BE WALKING IN THE WOODS without me knowing they are there? I mean come on! I still say good for this fella and glad it all worked out for him in this rare instance!

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lawdog, thanks for the kind words. He had just finished his gun safety training about 2 months prior. With all the things that run through kids heads these days, hopefully safety issues and ethics will always remain. I feel it's a duty of a parent to teach these issues.

Back to the post, if we simplify the scenerio, he killed something that he was not aiming at. Plain and simple. You can't use the theory that because he had legal tags to fill, that it's o.k. If he didn't, we would never had heard about it.

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The story also didnt say that that all 3 deer were lined up perfectly when he took the shot either did it? Bullet could of it any bone in the Mature Doe...ricocheted and went thru the other 2...any the gun he was using and the distance he was shooting..that is a possibility...a rare one but a possibility...but we dont know how they were standing cuz none of us were there...we are all going off of an article in a newspaper.

Please dont ever tell me me that "Its people like me that give hunters a bad name" I am a very ethical hunter. You dont have to believe it, but i know it to be the truth.

Sometimes you guys just have to loosen up a little bit. You dont have to disect every single hunting story...just go with the flow..cuz if its a story it already happend and there is nothing you can do about it now to stop it! shocked.gif

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My son got this lesson this year from me. He's fresh out of gun safety 2 months. We had two does at about 80 yds side by side and he didn't take the shot cause he probbly would have hit both of them. We didn't want two so we passed and the sunset,so empty handed. But proud of the fact he was ok with not shooting. Hopefully these decisions will carry forward when I'm not around,or when he grows up.

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Joe, there is no doubt I think that you are an ethical hunter.

Here is my point. The guy shooting did not intend to shoot two or three deer with one shot. He was only concentrating on the single mature doe. If he did not realize that his shot was in line with the other two deer how was he sure that there was not something/someone further down range.

I have been on private property and a family member has walked through the woods coming up on me - where I did not expect him. I hope we all know what we are shooting at and what is beyond the shot. That is being an ethical safe hunter - how can you not agree with that?

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tealitup...first of all i want to say thank you for what you said about my ethical hunting! that is very much so appreciative. I can not agree more with you about knowing your surroundings when about to pull the trigger. But i need to ask..where did you get the idea that his brother or son..whoever it was...might have been walking behind the deer. That is just a qustion that nobody can answer. I myself would just think that if THIS GUY would have seen orange behind the animal(s). he would not have taken the shot...but he didnt so he shot! I know that just because you dont see it doesnt mean it is not there. But in hunting i would guess the majority of people would take the shot (NOT IN THIS INSTANCE)... but if they dont see any orange and the fore/backgorund is ok then pull the trigger. Just need to know where everyone is..when/whaqt time everyone will be moving out of stand...that way all is safe!!!

Now i think Vitalshot is in need of apologizing here. He is assuming that i would have done the smae thing this guy did and spouted his mouth off about "What kind of Hunter" i am..without seeing me in the field. So Vitalshot....i am sorry that you can gather all sorts of knowlegde from one of my posts... and you can tag even as giving hunters like THAT GUY a bad name. really i am glad you came to that assumption cuz after all we know what what assuming makes of a guy right???? blush.gif

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I might have been an unethical hunter in slug season IF two people in our party would have had doe tags.

Was in my ground blind/tent when two nice does stopped roughly 7 to 10yds away. They milled around directly in front of me for about 5 minutes. On more than one occasion they lined up near perfectly side-by-side for a two-for-one shot.

Being at that close distance and knowing I was shooting Winchester Partition Gold sabots, I'm thinking I might have tried for that double. The possibility of it definitely entered my mind. Does that make me unethically-minded in that specific situation?

Since there were 0 doe tags in the party, I didn't even raise my gun. But, the point is, I think I might have gone for it if we would have been licensed accordingly.

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tealitup your right his brother was assisting him....but was the brother in the shack at the time he shot? Was the brother 1 mile away from him when he shot? Where was the brother when he shot???? WE DONT KNOW...thats what i am saying...There isnt enough information to take your question into context. if it said something to the Affect..."My brother was doing a drive to me when these 3 deer popped out..." I absolutely wouldnt take the shot if i didnt see my brother. So i am not even thinking about the question about where the brother was..since that wasnt the scenario at question. I am still saying that although it may not have been the right thing to do I am glad that it all worked out in the end and happy for this fellow..It seems as though he could use the Venison thru the Winter as times were "Getting Desperate" for him!

Your Very Ethical Hunting FM'er,

joe_stack20

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