need some help on how you install runners?

[boxcar46]

I have some hy-fax runners I'm going to be putting on my fish trap guide. This things are 1/2" thick by oh I'd say 1 1/2". It say's to drill through and use the self tapping screws. My question is has anyone had any problems with the screws pulling through or should I say pulling out? Or should a person use stove bolts with a nut & washer on the inside.

Thanks, boxcar46

[jigging-matt]

Not sure on the screws, my voyeager had screws and locknuts. One helpful hint for you is to use a heat gun as you are bending the hyfax on your sled. (Saw that tip on the site from someone else, What a great tip.) I lined mine up and started from the middle and worked my way out. Worked a lot better I thought then trying to start on one end. My friend did his Yukon the same way and agreed.

[chris63]

Use small screws with washer and nuts.Self tapers will just pull out.You have to countersink the holes on the ice side so the heads of the screws wont drag.Hope this helps some.Oh yea if you dont have a heat gun you can use a small propane torch or just boil the ends you want to bend in water for 10 min. or so.c63

[chris63]

You can start at either end just make sure when you drill your second hole the end is straight in line where you want it to be.Hope that makes sense c63

[JustinG]

I installed my own homemade hyfax made out of teflon strips on the bottom of my Otter Sled. Here is the BEST thing to do: Go to Fastenal and get yourself some 1 1/2" Elevator bolts. They are like a carriage bolt, but have a flat head. Next, countersink the holes using a 1" forstner bit. Do not use a speedbor bit because it will drill too deep on the sides of the hole. Next use a 9/64 bit to drill the holes through the sled and the hyfax then install the bolts with a large fender washer on the inside. It is easier to use locktite blue and regular nuts than nylock nuts.

This has worker great for me.

Hope this helps,

Justin

[Cygolf1]

where did you get the teflon runners and how much were they? I am looking for an inexpensive way to put hyfax on my otter lodge. Thanks RJ

[nitroant]

Not sure where JustinG got his, but some guys were getting their strips from United States Plastic Corporation. Type that in on google or another serch site and you should find their HSOforum. You can buy 5' long strips that you will have to drill and size for your seld, but they are cheaper than buying the ones from the store. This item is still on my to do list this fall.

[Cheers]

I checked U.S. Plastic but all I found was 1 inch sq. teflon at $8 per foot. What did you get? I just replaced 2 runners on my sled and had a (Contact Us Please) of a time getting out the old bolts.

[nitroant]

You need to go the Sheet/Rod/Shapes tab. Then go to the UHMW selection and there should be some 1/2" thick by 1 1/2" wide selections there for about $1.80/LF I think you have to buy them in 5' sections so a 5' section would run about $9 each. I am not sure what size you need, I am only guessing what size I will need, still need to check.I have not ordered these yet, so I would contact customer service to see how you have to order them, 5' sections or 10' sections. As as the bolts go, get a dremel. Best buy I ever made, has saved me a many hours trying to get bolts out.

[nitroant]

Check out the DIY Hyfax Runners thread that I bumped back up to the top as well. Some good info there as well.

[CaptSpike]

I made some out of pps. they were a little soft (but free) so I explored getting hyfax (UHMV). I found it thru Mcmaster for around $60. Before shipping. That was for (6) 5' pieces. I decided that by the time I add the holes (in a pattern not shotgun) and countersink the holes (took me 2.5 hrs for 6 pieces) it wasn't worth it. I bought the ones from otter. Done!

Spike

[JustinG]

You will have a hard time finding that kind of teflon material for making your own home made hyfax. My dad is a carpenter who frequently works in the mines and they use that material for forming around pipes and odd shapes. He gets scraps of all shapes and thicknesses. I just cut strips to the right length and width using a skill saw. The stuff he gave me wears like iron. I can drag my otter right down gravel and asphalt and it won't even phase it. I have no idea where you cn find it.

Sorry I can't help out,

J

[anyfishwilldo]

I just picked up some for my yukon at the home depot. I used the plastic trim they have there in the millwork isle. The stuff is made out of vinyl and bought the bolts there also. The whole thing done for under $20. I used boiling water to form the strips around the front and rear of the tub. It seemed to work real well. They are certainly better than those cheesy runners you can buy for the clams for $50.

[Cheers]

Do you know what the home depot calls them or what they are used for. Sounds like what I need. THANKS

[anyfishwilldo]

Im not sure what the technical term for them is, but there is a sticker on them "TRMPNK 1X2 BTWT". They are located right by all the other trimwork in the store. It is a 1x2" piece of white vinyl, 12ft long.

[burl]

Just finished doing this to two of my portables.Used the hpd materail from macmaster carr supply.Purchased a larger sheet and cut strips.Used #8-32 x 3/4 screws with fender washers and nylock nuts on the inside.Probably have about $35.00 of material and three hours of work to do both portables.Be care full with using a torch the plastic will melt fast.Burl.