QUESTIONS FOR YOTE HUNTERS

[MILLER TIME]

THIS WILL BE MY FIRST YEAR COYOTE HUNTING. HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING A ELECTRONIC CALL. I PURCHASED A EXTREME DEMENSION PRO SERIES FROM hsolist, (GREAT DEAL BY THE WAY) AND WAS WONDERING ON HOW LONG A PERSON SHOULD CALL TO LOCATE THEM, WHAT CALLS TO USE IN A SERIES, WHAT CALLS HAVE BEEN WORKING. DECOY, NO DECOY? ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!

[roosterslayer]

First get your permit from the DNR to use a remote operated device to take game. Then I use lonesome howls to locate the day or evening before and go back in the morning. Rabbit sounds are good, but i like the jack rabbit and woodpecker sounds. i also leave the call on almost the whole time till i see a yote and then turn the volume down or even turn the caller off and coax from there. Good luck the sloughs are starting to freeze and good calling should be around the corner.

[SM1]

I thought coyotes are considered a non-game species in MN and can be taken by any means???

[MILLER TIME]

where does it state in the handbook that you need a license to use a electronis caller?

[Valv]

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I thought coyotes are considered a non-game species in MN and can be taken by any means???

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Read other posts regarding coyote hunting, all remote controlled callers are illegal in MN. You can have a permit to use them for coyote hunting ONLY, DNR has to issue it.

[sachem longrifle]

Also, raise chickens and turkeys. You will then have more coyotes than you know what to do with.

[roosterslayer]

Page 30 of the handbook says a permit is needed for use of a radio device to take unprotected game.

[MILLER TIME]

ah found it!! thanks for the info. sound pretty double standard to me when one page they pretty much say with any means and then they put it 20 pages before that you cant use them without a permit.

[roosterslayer]

I do agree but hopefully soon that law will be changed and all will be good.

[picksbigwagon]

They are re-evaluating using that permit for wireless callers. That tid bit of information came from our regional enforecement director. The big wigs in St. Paul are re evaluating whether a wireless caller fits under getting a permit for using a wireless caller. I have been getting different answers no for the last month, meanwhile, my caller sits in the basement, waiting for an official answer

[MILLER TIME]

IN THE HAND BOOK IT SAYS THAT A DNR PERMIT IS REQUIRED TO TAKE UNPROTECTED ANIMALS WITH THE AID OF RADIO EQUIPMENT. WHEN I READ THIS I FIGURE THAT YOU CAN HUNT WITH A E-CALLER SINCE ITS NOT A TWO-WAY FREQUENCY LIKE A RADIO, CELL PHONE, WALKIES. E-CALLER IS ONE FREQUENCY SO IF YOU READ THE GREY AREA ITS LEGAL? HAVE'NT HEARD BACK FROM MY CO BUT I'LL POST WHAT I FIND OUT.

[roosterslayer]

This issue has already been taken to the to the DNR and it is run under the same general rule about using remote devices like the mojo duck ect... I personally this it is very gray myself but i wont enter the firld with mine till i get my permit.

[FlyingV]

Electronic callers are not illegal because they are not radios. The use of radio frequency remote controls on the electronic caller is illegal. Leave the remote at home and you will be ok.

[Try Too Fish]

Flying V has it right!! Electronic callers are OK!!You can even use a Electronic caller remote if the remote control is wired! It is OK to use your electronic caller remotely if you have to get up and move to change anything on the caller!IF it is a walkie talkie type remote it is currently not legal in minnesota! I have had several long conversations with a CO to get this clear!

[woody1975]

I have a radio permit to take coyotes (only coyotes) The permit is strictly for the use of hand-held and cell-phones for coyotes and doesn't say anything about callers? Wireless or Otherwise.

Wood

[Valv]

Ok, to straighten the "dilemma" out, an Electronic caller is allowed to hunt, it's just a box that emits sounds electronically (mp3s, wavs, etc.), you can also use a CD player, MP3 player, etc, these are ALL electronic devices.

A remote controlled electronic caller is same device as above with a radio controlled remote that activates main unit, increases/decreases sounds, change sounds, etc, this is NOT allowed.

Now some callers like Johnny Stewart Praymaster have a wired remote control, these are allowed.

The rule was issued I think to avoid hunters with 2 way radios, cell phones, remote controlled decoys, etc.

Picksbigwagon is very involved into this, he's taking up the quest to have legislation change the ruling for varmint hunting, but at this moment appears a permit is the only way to go.

Common sense rules when dealing with gray area of the law, to avoid unnecessary fines, equipment confiscation, etc.

Until this is straightened up don't take the word of a C.O. 100% but have it in writing and signed.

[MILLER TIME]

SORRY FOR THE DELIMMA, I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME TIPS TO BEING A BETTER COYOTE HUNTER. THANKS FOR ALL THE ADVICE AND HEAD UP ON WHATS LEGAL AND WHATS NOT.