Lindner in the classic.... what if?

[Slyster]

How do you think some of the Lindners would do in the pro tours competing against VanDam, Iaconelli, and the others?

I wonder if they would could maybe just blow everyone away yet stay with the shows since that's just what they want to do. Sure do enjoy their shows.

[TurnUpTheFishing]

I think they could do pretty well for themselves but I dont think they would take the circuit by storm.

I think the lindners are some of the best if not the best multispecies anglers.

[campfan]

Sorry, but they wouldn't be competitive. They do fish some events around here and do ok but KVD is on a different level.

[Bobby Bass]

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Sorry, but they wouldn't be competitive. They do fish some events around here and do ok but KVD is on a different level.

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I tend to agree, A fishing show is a lot different then fishing the tour. No one wants to watch a fishing show where you catch 2 or 3 fish in an hour that is why they have editing. You have no idea how many hours are spent on the water to put that 15 minute segment together. Let along how many hours are spent by others prefishing a lake or body of water before the film crew even arrives. Roland Martin had an article several years ago talking about how many hours it takes to put a 30 minute show together. I'm not saying at the right time and at the right place they could do well but I think they have found there niche. I have met both Ron and Al and would welcome both of them in my boat.

[andy j]

Al Lindner actually used to fish the B.A.S.S. circuit back in the Bill Dance days. He actually won 2 tounaments. I think he is the only angler to win a pro bass and a pro walleye tournament. I have also met him, great guy a true passion for multispecies fishing and in my opinion the best multispecies fisherman ever. His nephew Jim ranks right up there also.

[RobertELee]

I have heard that alot of times when you see a show it is usually filmed over a few days. They will wear the same clothes every day!

[Deitz Dittrich]

I can tell you from filming our HotSpotOutdoors shows, that catching fish while a camera on is hard...Catching a fish with a camera on and conditions that are good for filming, light the correct way, little wind so it doesnt kill the microphone is evn harder.

I think the Linders are great hooks, some of the best at multi species. However, I dont think they would do well on the pro bass tour.

[Daze Off]

And let's not forget that the "big" names usually have a network of anglers on the same body of water when they film and if they find fish they call the "name" over to the spot and filming begins. Wish someone would call me every time they found active fish...LOL

Not to take anything away from the Lindner's because they certainly are without peers in multi-species world.

Daze Off

[RK]

Hiya -

They'd do OK at best. The Lindners fish some Canadian smallmouth tournies and usually finish near the top but don't dominate by any means. But...take 99% of the guys at the classic and tell them the tournament is multi-species, and they need to go catch one of everything in the lake, and it wouldn't even be close. As multi-species anglers, the Lindners are in a class by themselves...which I admire a lot more than knowing how to catch one fish, no matter how good someone is.

About filming TV shows. Someone mentioned not changing clothes. Sad but true sometimes. There's really nothing deceptive going on though. It's just a way to keep the film editor from going insane while he's piecing together cut scenes and 'B roll' for lead ins and outs or sequencing multiple fish in a segment. Their lives get miserable when they're piecing together cut scenes and in one shot the guy has a red t-shirt on, and in the next, it's blue. It has consequences though. This past summer I filmed for 4 days in 80+ degree heat and had to wear the same t-shirt. Wow did I ever stink!

As far as how long it takes to get a show - it takes what it takes, and depends on lots of things, not the least of which is how good the camera dude is, and how picky they are about getting the 'right shot.' For muskie shows, 4 days isn't uncommon if you figure you need a 6-pack of fish to get a half hour show. We did one this fall in 2 days though. Can get a walleye show in a day if the fish are cooperative. Or try for 4 days and get nothing if they're not, or if weather screws you. Depends on how cooperative the fish are. The other reason it takes 3-4 days to get a show sometimes is weather and light. Even digital cameras are very unforgiving of shooting outdoors, and you can lose a whole day (or a whole trip) to bad weather - rain/mist, wind that makes the audio track from the shotgun mike sound like rocks in a tin can, fast-moving clouds that throw the white balance on the camera all to hell... Watch your favorite TV show and pay attention to how many shows are shot when it's something other than bluebird skies... Not to mention the simple fact that fish never, ever bite on cue. All in all, if you want to really mess up a perfectly good fishing trip, bring a TV camera...

Cheers,

Rob Kimm

[cjac]

They are too entertaining to put in a tourney setting! Fun to watch, and yes, the ability to catch anything and anywhere is unreal! I could see them doing well on the smallies. Didn't Al finish top 5 in the Wave Wacker for wallys a few years back?

Deitz, I heard from Matt J you filmed a bass segment on my favorite little sleeper lake out in your neck of the woods. Can't wait to see that! It shouldn't have been too tough to get some good footage, I can even catch 'em on that lake!

Chris

[Deitz Dittrich]

cjak- It will air this next spring.. Ray Esboldt and I together, I am excited as you are about this show.. We slapped em silly!