Liriano

[IFallsRon]

I heard that the MRI revealed no tears and that there's a remote chance he could pitch again if the Twins reach the playoffs.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

That would be music to the Twinkie's ears. I was just passing on what I heard the ESPN guy say.

Windy

[harvey lee]

As stated earlier,the Twins have done well with the young players they are playing now.I gave them up for dead a long time ago and boy was I wrong.This young team can do it with what they have now.At least they think so and thats all that matters.You cannot count them out like I did a month or two ago.

[nofishfisherman]

Now that Liriano is out I put it at a 100% chance Radke will pitch again this year. There is no way he will just sit on the side in the dugout and watch this team the rest of the year. Radke is as tough as they come and he knows the team needs him. He will pitch through whatever pain he has, he doesn't need to protect his career at this point this is his last year and I bet he will fire ever last bullet that arm has in it. His arm would literally have to seperate from his body for him to not pitch, and even if that did happen I think he would try to pitch left handed.

[buzzsaw]

Here's the article:

CLEVELAND - Those who feared the worst with Twins pitcher Francisco Liriano's arm injury could breathe a little easier Thursday.

Early indications from two sources were that Liriano's magnetic resonance imaging exam, taken Wednesday, showed no new structural damage to his left elbow.

Twins General Manager Terry Ryan could not be reached for comment, but sources said Liriano's MRI results were very similar to the results from early August, which showed a mild tear of his ulnar collateral ligament.

At the time, the Twins said that was an old injury for Liriano. After resting the elbow and strengthening his shoulder, Liriano began a throwing program that led to Wednesday's return, which he cut short in the third inning against Oakland.

After being examined by the Twins' medical staff Wednesday, Liriano, 22, could be headed for a second opinion.

Speculation mounted Wednesday that Liriano could need the ligament reconstructive procedure commonly known as "Tommy John surgery."

The recommended rehabilitation time from Tommy John surgery is 12-18 months.

The Twins had already planned to shut down Liriano for the rest of the season, but if the early reports hold true, he would hold a much better chance of being at full strength for the start of spring training.

More information is expected in coming hours, as the Twins begin a four-game series with the Cleveland Indians tonight.

[Willy]

Radke is tough as nails and he's gonna be out there whether it totally wrecks his arm or not. He wants to win this thing. It's his last year.

Read this in the strib this morning:

"Radke, whose left shoulder must feel like hot dish, played catch from 125 feet, throwing changeups and sliders, hoping to rejoin baseball's only 10-man rotation. "It felt good," he said. "I really want to get back out there. I want to help."

Won't Radke simply reinjure himself, like Liriano? "He's 22," Radke said. "I'm on my way out the door. If my arm falls off, it falls off."

[nofishfisherman]

Quote:

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Radke said. "I'm on my way out the door. If my arm falls off, it falls off."

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Now thats a real man's man. With an attitude like that how can you not cheer for him.

[buzzsaw]

The latest cut and paste job:

CLEVELAND -- Francisco Liriano and the Minnesota Twins are somewhat relieved, yet mostly mystifed over the rookie left-hander's latest test results on his elbow.

Baseball Today Podcast for 9/14

Alan Schwarz and Steve Phillips take a closer look at Francisco Liriano's season-ending injury.

To listen to the podcast, click here

"The MRI came back exactly the same as the previous one," Twins general manager Terry Ryan said Thursday. "He has a ligament strain, but there is no structural damage. That's the good news.

"Now we have to find out why he's having pain. We're not going to mess around with his future."

Ryan said the Twins will take an ultra-conservative approach with Liriano, who threw only 28 pitches Wednesday against Oakland in his first start in more than a month -- then walked off the mound, saying he heard a pop in his elbow.

Liriano, 12-3 with a 2.19 ERA, is done for the season, even if the Twins make the playoffs. Minnesota entered play Thursday leading the Chicago White Sox by 1½ games in the AL wild-card race and trailing first-place, idle Detroit by 1½ games in the AL Central.

"This had everybody a little flustered for a day, but we've been winning without him for a month," manager Ron Gardenhire said. "We've just got to go out and do the job."

Ryan said no surgery is planned, but he expressed caution that the prognosis could change.

"That's not a certainty, but that's what tests now show," he said. "Anything is possible.

"There's a lot of mystery as to why this happened in the first place. We want the doctors to figure out what the problem is and correct it."

Ryan refuted reports that the Twins rushed Liriano back in the heat of the race. The rookie went on the disabled list Aug. 8 and after a month of treatment, pitched three hitless innings Saturday in a rehab start for Triple-A Rochester.

"I don't think anybody anticipated what happened after watching him in Rochester," Ryan said. "We treated him with kid gloves and unfortunately there was a relapse. A lot of people thought it was his ankle or knee when he went out because we were so convinced his elbow was OK."

Gardenhire said rookie Matt Garza will take Liriano's spot in the rotation.

"We can just go with what we have," Gardenhire said. "If we are fortunate to get to the playoffs, I'm sure we'll have somebody out there throwing the ball over the plate and taking our best chance."

Ryan said giving Liriano the best chance to extend the promising start to his career is the Twins' immediate concern.

"I say let's get him ready for 2007 and that's tough for me to say today," Ryan said in reference to the playoff race.

"But I'd rather have him for 200-plus innings next year than for one playoff game.

"He's helped us get to this point. Now let's take care of him and not do anything foolish."

[PierBridge]

That's encouraging..... but MRI's have wrong before......