World record status update

[WMRP Member]

www.worldrecordmuskiealliance.com.

[Jim Hudson]

Very interesting indeed!!

[RuKiddingMe]

Yes very interesting. I for one hope they get all this stuff panned out and we can start with some legitimate records and stop all the controversy once and for all. On the other hand what will everyone have to argue about during the long winters on the muskies boards... Can't we all just get along... haha

RU

[RK]

Hiya,

Speaking as someone who has thought for years that the Spray 'record' was an utter joke, I'm glad to see some actual research done into the fish, as opposed to the foregone conclusion 'research' that disregards any opposing evidence as heresay that's been promoted and published to this point. To me, holding this fish up as the record for our sport has been a long-running embarassment, and one that's been propped up far, far too long by individuals and publications with very suspect credibility when it comes to responsible handling of research and history. It really is amazing how much effort it has taken to argue the case for what virtually every single experienced muskie angler I know (and I know many, many of them) has considered obvious for decades - that Louie Spray's fish just flat out weren't that big.

I hope the FFHOF does the right thing and removes Spray's record. And I really hope those who have made an industry out of promoting what so many feel is an obvious fraud are held at least a little accountable...

Other than that, I guess I don't have any strong feelings on it

Cheers,

RK

[WMRP Member]

Hey RK

On another post a while ago you indicated that the MDNR, through DNA analysis, was able to determine that fish from Leech Lake and the Mississippi river were virtually the same. Could you please point me in the right direction as to where I can find the documentation that supports this? Or could you at least give Larry Ramsell a call and let him know? This info could be very useful to the future of musky fishing in a lot of areas in question right now. It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Eric Johnson

[RK]

Hiya Eric,

Man I forgot all about that...sorry Eric.

Actually I'll do one better. I'm talking at the symposium this weekend in Indiana, and Larry and the guy who did the Miss. research will both be there. I'll introduce them and Larry can get it right from the source

Cheers,

RK

[VMS]

I for one am very glad that through extensive research that the spray fish was found as not being legitimate. I have yet to read the report, but, in my opinion what was extremely obvious has now been concluded by panel.

I wonder, though, just how deep this will go and to what extent will the records be taken back to. I did read on another thread that they will be looking into Cal Johnson's fish, and I would assume they will look at the O'brien fish as well.

Steve

[Cooter]

I haven't read the report and have no opinion on the Spray fish, but I'm a bit leery on this photo analyzing deal. I've got many pics of the same fish where one pic it looks huge and the other tiny.

[nbdyknws]

I could make a 4" sunfish look like it could eat the world record muskie just by holding it closer to the camera

[WMRP Member]

Rob

Thanks. That would be great and very much appreciated.

Eric Johnson

[lots of luck]

What an outstanding read. I am relatively new to this sport and have been told not to get caught up in the "controversy".

Well.......

Take a look at the photo comparisons and claimed lengths and girths. Compare Linda Rice's 57" x 28" with Spray's. Why was this not challeneged sooner?

Spray's fish were trophys but not the 59+/- and 63+/-.

[Random guy]

Talk about photos, take a look at my avatar and guess the size of that fish, Hint I'm 6'1" at 220lbs and I have a fat head. I'll let you guys take some shots at it and see who comes in the closest.

[TomWehler]

That head got to be a size 12 fer sure!

Nice fish.

51x22

It's all good.

[RuKiddingMe]

I'll 53" x 22"

Nice Fish if I do say so myself.

RU

[Random guy]

Tom, you are darn close on the head size! I can't even buy fitted hats...they don't come big enough.

You and RU are way off on the fish, sorry

This pic is a solid 52" With the fish close to the body and the tail in mid flip towards me.

[Big G]

OK Jonny P!!!!!

I'll give it a crack!!!!!

I will say 44x18!!!!

Your hand gives it away!!!!!!!!

[Random guy]

Darn close Big G! 46.5". Talk about camera angles! Yes the hands are key. That is how dispute judges in photo tournaments will sometimes settle a protest of a entry. Take a closer look, my fingers are 3 1/4 inches across at the knuckles squezed together.

[TomWehler]

Still a nice fish Jon.

Not every fish has to go 50" or better to be Big or fun.

T.

[Hwood]

That is a good point Jon and some nice fish. I would have guess the fish to be larger.

[Random guy]

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Still a nice fish Jon.

Not every fish has to go 50" or better to be Big or fun.

T.

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You got that right Tom! That fish in my avatar hit a top water way out, jumped and tail danced four times on the way in. Then when it got to the boat with one guide, a very seasoned musky angler and a TV personality from a fishing program we managed to get it tangled up in another rod and around the trimmed up outboard.You think with the combined experiance we could land a fish. What a mess, but what a blast!

[TomWehler]

Sounds like fun to me.

I see a ton of that stuf druing the course of a season.

Things people to do in a guide boat?

LOL X 1000000000

Hey, what kind of seasoning did you use on that angler?

T.

[Random guy]

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Hey, what kind of seasoning did you use on that angler?

T.

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Yes I should have got out of the sun a little sooner that day.