1981 Lund 16ft Mr. Pike & 90hp motor

[Flash]

Just wondering if putting a 90hp on this boat would be too much motor. The boat is rated for 75hp but that was back in 1981. Isn't it different now.

Flash

"Set the Hook"

[MRWALLEYE2005]

I know a relative of mine has a 90 hp mercury on his older 16 foot lund pro v and it seems to be fine.

[Ralph Wiggum]

I wouldn't exceed the rating. Not only is it unsafe, it's illegal.

[New Yankee]

Flash - I THINK you'd be OK, but I'd check the weight of the average '81 75 HP vs the weight of your 90 to see what the impact it would have on capacity, and thereby handling and saftey.

Checking your profile, I'd also check your policy to see if you'll run into any probs by overpowering - I've seen some that won't cover losses if this is the case (or may be you attest to the HP is within rating on the app?), and if not you might get a curious underwriter anyhow

[PerchJerker]

When you ask "Isn't it different now" I wonder if you're getting at how they rate the hp of outboards. In the old days they used to rate them at the powerheads, but now they rate them at the prop. Today's 75 hp motor will be more powerful than a 75 hp motor from 1981.

[MNice]

Flash, going for a little speed trolling

[MedicDan]

The 90 would way over power the Mr.Pike.

I have the 1985 model, with an 1986 evinrude 75. I tracked it on my my GPS for 47.2 MPH! Loaded

[Phred52]

Flash, When boating, "Keeping the shiny side up" is NOT a good thing! Although, I'd be REAL interested to find out if a prop on an upside down boat would still move the boat. As stated above, It's illegal and you would be ticketed on the water for it.

[Valv]

Actually it's not against the law since there is no law for it. USPS tags are a recomendation not a limitation. If you get a ticket for having a larger motor on your boat you can see the judge and have it overthrown.

[MedicDan]

It is a law. One of the teachers at school, his brother is a conservation officer, and I also confirmed this info by 3 other conservation officers this morning also. This is completely illegal, and the U.S. coast Guard completely keeps track of all information. You can be fined from $82-$2500 depending on the limit over done. The model registry for the Mr. Pike 1981-1988 says a max of 75 HP. If you would like to just get it thrown out by a judge, do not go over 15 HP extra, they can fine fine you if they want even for that amount. I have seen people get away with it, but rarely. This has now been in efect for a couple months now due to even stricter manufacturing policys for boat&engine design companies.

[Valv]

If it's a new law, that's good, but I would like to know which is it and where is it.

We shouldn't have to email to the Governor to find out about laws and regulations.

[Willy]

Valv, I didn't think it was true either so I looked it up.

Read page 34, right at the top. It must be a new law.

http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/boatwater/boatingguide.pdf

[Valv]

Correction, Crasher_2009 is correct.

Here's the law from MN statutes:

86B.505 Watercraft capacity plates.

Subdivision 1. Requirement. (a) A watercraft 20 feet

or less in length manufactured for sale in this state after

December 31, 1980, except canoes, kayaks, sailboats, sailboards,

and inflatable boats, must have a capacity plate permanently

affixed to the watercraft by the manufacturer. The capacity

plate must contain information relating to maximum safe carrying

and power capacity specifications prescribed by the

commissioner. The information contained on the capacity plate

must, at a minimum, comply with the established standards and

regulations of the United States Coast Guard.

( For purposes of this section, "manufacture" means to

construct or assemble a watercraft or alter a watercraft in a

manner that changes its weight and carrying capacity.

Subd. 2. Certification of correct information. The

information appearing on a capacity plate is deemed to certify

that the manufacturer has correctly and faithfully specified the

maximum safe carrying and horsepower capacity and that the

information is not a deliberate or negligent misrepresentation.

Subd. 3. Violation. A person who does not comply

with provisions of this section commits a violation for each

watercraft for which this section is not complied with.

HIST: 1990 c 391 art 9 s 27

Copyright 2004 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.

I don't understand why 20ft and below but not above.

Willy, I was posting this while you added to it....

[MedicDan]

Yeah I learned when I got caught.

[MedicDan]

I'm just tring to remeber too where I found the info the other night.

[Valv]

Quote:

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Yeah I learned when I got caught.

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Geee what were you running a 175hp on a 45hp 14ft ????

[MedicDan]

No I have a 1985 Mr. Pike 16ft. that I put a 90 mercury on. But that wasn't too bad, but my uncles story is even funnier- he has a 14 ft john boat with a 35 evinrude- now that really goes

[Valv]

2 years ago I had a 14ft Mirrocraft with a 40hp Yamaha, never been over 1/2 throttle, I "downgraded" to Mariner 30hp and was much better.

Anyway we have to thank this thread and whom brought to our attention this new law. Looks like we have to pay more attention to new regulations every year.

[Phred52]

Guys, I found out in 1986 after my 15 hp was stolen outta my backyard. I replaced it with a 30 hp on an S14 Lund. It musta looked too new and I got a THROUGH going-over by one of the Hutchinson CO's. He checked my registration, the tag in the boat, and even after that, he wanted to be certian that the motor was ONLY a 30hp(Boat's rated for 35). He was on a MISSION and I basically told him he was one of the two luckiest people on the face of the earth, as he could "Kiss my behind, and I couldn't". I don't know WHO he was trying to impress, but it didn't work with me.I DON'T think I made a new friend!!! Sorry guys, If I KNOW I'm right, Language doesn't count!