yammamoto vs dinger

[fishkid]

I was wondering what everybody's thoughts are on these to similary stick baits. I have used both of them and the yum dinger seems to hold up better when the yammamotos get ripped apart.

[Superduty]

I have fished both of the stick baits you mentioned plus a few other brands: all terrain tackle, strike king zero, tiki stiks, even galyans store brand. All catch fish. Not all have the same action or rate of fall however. I think the original senkos are the heaviest I've fished and are also very soft(not durable) and have a good tail wiggling action. The only bait that I've found to be softer is the 3X zero. Have had poor success hooking fish with zeros rigged texas style though. If you like to wacky rig and want a durable bait the 3x zero would be good.

I think it is up to the angler to determine which style of stick bait is best for the situation. Sometimes the heavy faster falling baits are best. Sometimes a lighter slower falling bait may work better. Pay attention to when the strike occurs. Is it as soon as the bait hits the water? Is it after the bait has fallen to bottom and sat motionless for a period of time? Could be somewhere in between also. I love these baits for negative or heavily pressured fish. Just throw it where you think the bass should be and wait as long as you can before moving it. If the fish are biting stick baits high in the water column(before the bait sinks too far) you can probably catch them on a more aggressive tactic and cover more water.

[Deitz Dittrich]

Let me be the first to say, that I have had the honor of fishing against Superduty many times.. and have come out on the short end of the stick many times! This guy deffinatly knows his stuff... And pay attension to what he says!

Back to the question... there are a ton of knock offs now days of the stick bait/senko. All have different ammount of salt to plastic ratio. The more salt generally means the faster fall rate yet often yeilds the least durable bait.

No matter how you look at it, these baits deffinatly have a place in everybody tackle box. They can ge texas rigged, carolina rigged, wacky rigged, weightless rigged, and even dropshotted...

I am really excited, Exude enters this market this year with a new bait called the Comida. Cant wait to get my hands on them!

[BigMike]

This is a great question and as the others have mentioned, the "stick bait", or "do nothing bait", is probably one of the biggest revolutions to hit the bass lure market in the last couple years. I too have fished both brands and to be honest it's hard to tell the difference except in the price tag. When dealing with YUM dingers vs. yamamoto senkos; specifically the dinger will be more durable because it is not impregnated with as much salt, however the senko does have a livelier and wider wobble action if you watch real close. When fishing these types of baits, I've found that a major component of these baits is the sink rate... Senkos will sink faster and the off brands usually will sink slower.

This last year I had the pleasure of testing some stick baits from one of Fishing Minnesota's site sponsors TJ Tackle (and haven't stopped using them since!). TJ's carries Case plastics and they have a line up called Case Magic Stiks

Dan Wood has written several articles about the sink rate of the Magic Stik to that of a real senko and they are practically identical =http://www.fishingminnesota.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB54&Number=349537&Forum=All_Forums&Words="sink%20rate"&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=349523&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=6804&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post349537]Article #1 Article#2. When I used these baits last year, they were amazing. They are as durable (if not more durable) than a YUM dinger, yet have the same soft feel and action of a senko. It was the best of both worlds. Plus if you have ever been torn on which size to buy, the magic stiks come in 3.5, 4.5 and 5.5 inch sizes vs. the standard 3, 4 & 5incher, and they come in some awesome colors

Be sure to support FM and check out entire Case line up at http://www.tjtackle.com/

[sami0115]

i prefer the YUM Dingers. they definatly hold up longer. i am also very impressed with the LPT smell. the fish just don't let go!! i had an interesting experience this last summer while fishing with a YUM Dinger. i had a short strike and lost a fish. i was at that same location an hour later and caught a fish (Smallie). while fighting it the fish jumped out of the water and shook his head and my YUM Dinger from earlier in the day came flying out of his mouth.

i originally started fishing these on 10 or 12lb line, and someone told me to try heavier line like 17lb. it seems as though my success was better, it slowed down the fall rate.

i will be doing a lot more "do nothing fishing" this year!!

[fishingmike0770]

I have used Outkast baits for the last 2 seasons. They stand up real well against aggressive fish and have great scent to them. Have used yammamoto but find them expensive and not very strong.

[Granny]

I will second BigMike's post on the Magic Stiks from Tj's Tackle. I also had the chance to try out the Magic Stiks and they worked great! Since these baits worked so good I have not purchased another brand. Give them a try and you won't be disappointed in the product or the price.

Granny

[friendlyfisher]

Sami, that story reminds me of something that happened to me last summer.

I was fishing docks late spring/early summer, I had been doing fairly well on numbers of fish and size.

I pulled up to a dock and skipped my worm(dinger or senko not sur which one it was) under the dock. When a fish hit it I set the hook and missed it.

Since I had caught a few on that senko already it was worn out and I lost it on the hook set. So I rigged another one up. My next cast went to the same spot and a fish hit it again, I set hte hook and brought it in. It was a pound and a half largie, not great. When I went to retrieve the hook it had both senkos in its mouth.

So the bass had a fake one in its mouth for about three minutes and still took another one just like it later.

I was impressed by that. ff

[sami0115]

it is amazing how long they will hold on to those. i wonder if it is the smell or taste or texture. in my case the fish was caught at least an hour later. its possible he had just picked it up off the bottom of the lake just before i caught him, but still it is amazing.