Front tire studs

[MNice]

I have used 3/8" long screws for years in my old 2x4 polaris. Have logged quite a few miles over the years and I bet I have not lost 2 or 3 screws. Works very well on hard pack and especially glare ice.

For those that didn't see this before.. Also, lets not stereotype please, I have a wheeler and do not drive more than 5 or 10 MPH on the lake, so yes... I do putt along, sorry to ruin the theory.

[pureinsanity]

Why is it that when someone has an opinion and others disagree they get bent out of shape.

I am stating that simple fact that some people may go toy around. In fact the first time you stud your tires you go test them out and see how the performance and handling is.

When you test drive a car or buy a new one. You see how the handling is, how it accelerates, ect.

Am I saying EVERYONE is doing it??? nope, some do some don't. You may putt, you may drive like you stole it. So be it. It is an opinion, take it or leave it. Don't get bent out of shape, accuse people of stereotyping or try to "prove" their theory wrong.

I am inclined to give my opinion, just as you are yours. Whether you agree or disagree with my opinion, that is your call. I never once said screws didn't work, in fact they do work. But in my experience using different screws and studs, studs win hands down (in my opinion)

If you think you're saving a bunch of money by buying cheaper screws from a hardware store, by all means go do it. You can buy studs for about the same and have better handling and performance that lasts seasons longer.....

I prefer studs over screws. Plain and simple, I stated my opinion why. No offense, if you do not like my opinion or do not agree with my opinion, or feel my opinion is negating, don't read my posts. It simply is an opinion and that is it...

I have read others opinions and how they think using sheet metals screws are no different then buying studs. That's great and its their opinion and they are entitled to it. But, having used both. I will stick to studs.

Sorry if my posts have come across as judgmental, stereotypical, and or arrogant. It is not meant that way by any means and I believe it is how you are reading the posts.

Sorry for having an opinion and sticking to what i believe works best for me.

[MNice]

A man with an ATV...

No one ever just "putts" on the ice...I don't care HOW old you are. You are going to have some fun too and test out your studs.

This is the post I was referring to. I'm not upset at all, and I did say please.

[rundrave]

the original poster clearly stated he already has v-bar chains on the rear tires.

Hes not going to be hauling the mail around an oval track nor trying to drift through a wide turn like you have a pic of the motorcyle doing.

For the simple application of ice fishing and towing a load across a lake to your favorite fishing spot a typical ice fisherman will get by with the sheet metal screws.

If you think you're saving a bunch of money by buying cheaper screws from a hardware store, by all means go do it. You can buy studs for about the same and have better handling and performance that lasts seasons longer.....

as someone that has raced, priced and done lots of ice riding I dont know of anywhere that you can buy studs for the same price of screws, its not even close.

[pureinsanity]

Hmm, I outfitted my bike with studs for under 20 bucks. I also bought online so maybe that makes a difference?

[Macgyver55]

as someone that has raced, priced and done lots of ice riding I dont know of anywhere that you can buy studs for the same price of screws, its not even close.

Thats kind of where I was going with it. The ones I showed above were some of the cheaper ones I could find online at $106 per 100.

I still wonder why studs would stay in any better than a screw when the stud has more grip which in turn creates more force pulling on it, and its the same rubber holding it in. If you are using them for high performance by all means go with a good quality stud to get "the edge" but for the orig poster's use I think the screws will hold up just fine and I highly doubt they would come out any easier.

The first tire I ever studded was in the late 70s with 1/4 bolts drilled through from the inside and a tube in the tire. That bike would stand up on ice like it was dry pavement.

Oh, and I'm not mad either, just giving my opinion.

[pureinsanity]

250 for under 20 bucks.

[pureinsanity]

And im not mad either

[Macgyver55]

Hey if I'm not mistaken.... it says "screws" on that box!

No wonder they were so cheap!

[pureinsanity]

Har Har. insert whitty sarcasm here

AMA approved.

[Eric Wettschreck]

One bit of advice I'll toss in is.....If your drill/driver has an adjustable clutch, turn it down. This will help avoid "spinning" the screw in the lug. If the screw spins while it's already seated it has a better chance of coming out. No spin, the odds of staying in are a lot better. Kinda like stripping out a nut and the bolt just spins in it, and doesn't really grab.

Or, if you don't have an adjustable clutch you could use a nut driver. Or, just be real careful, go slow, and do your best to not spin.

My wheeler has sheet metal screws in the lugs of the front tires. Works great on this glare ice. However, like others, I kind of drive like an old woman on the ice. I don't need to test accleration, braking, and performance. I just want to get to my spot without sliding all over the place.

I'm not mad either. Actually, I'm in a pretty good mood.

[Macgyver55]

Actually, I'm in a pretty good mood.

So then, your truck must be running good this week!

[pureinsanity]

So then, your truck must be running good this week!

Way to jinx him

[Dave S]

I'll have some of whatever you guys are having.

[harvey lee]

I guess to each his own on what they would like to use.

Mine cost about 2 cents each. They do not fall out and are seated very well. So, I will stay with what works for me.

Call me an old women for the way I drive but my gear lasts forever.

I am glad you are using what you want Pure just as I am.

I have an adj clutch on my drills but I put the screw in only so far and then finish them off with a nut driver so there were in tight with no stripping.

What store offers those studs today for under $20? The only difference I see in yours to mine is yours are gold and alot more spendy.

[Eric Wettschreck]

So then, your truck must be running good this week!

Thanks for the jinx....It broke last night.

Just kidding. Give it time and I'll be asking for advice on how to fix it.

[harvey lee]

Keep it out of the cattail sloughs chasing up roosters and it will not break near as much Eric.

[pureinsanity]

Keep it out of the cattail sloughs chasing up roosters and it will not break near as much Eric.

Those randomly placed muskrat houses are no good on front ends! specially when they are frozen!

[Great Outdoors]

You'll be very pleased with the tire studs.

I have tracks on my Polaris Ranger and have two per grouser.

I also put them in the bottom edge of my Muck Boots and have NEVER slipped on glare ice. It's the same as walking on concrete in the summer with those studs.

You can buy the Gold Head Screws for ATV's at Dennis Kirk, about $70/1,000 including shipping.

[harvey lee]

Those gold ones look exactly the same as the silver screws i put in except they are gold.

This thread makes me want to go out in the street and see how hard I have to beat my wheeler to get my screws to come out of the tire. As tight as they seem to be in, I doubt they would come out that easily at all.

Next time I am on the ice and noone is close, I am going to put the wheeler through the paces and see if I can get one to pull out.

[pureinsanity]

The studs are a lot harder, the heads are longer too for better traction as well as deep groves for traction when they wear down.

You will see them back out and bend before they come out. Once they become loose they can fly out from force. I am sure yours will work just fine for your application.

Again I would use studs just because I am a believer in them. that is all

[Great Outdoors]

Those gold ones look exactly the same as the silver screws i put in except they are gold.

This thread makes me want to go out in the street and see how hard I have to beat my wheeler to get my screws to come out of the tire. As tight as they seem to be in, I doubt they would come out that easily at all.

Next time I am on the ice and noone is close, I am going to put the wheeler through the paces and see if I can get one to pull out.

They may look the same, but the heads are much sharper and harder than sheet metal screws.

[harvey lee]

That they could be. The screws I put in will work well on my wheeler. Now, if I was racing, I would for sure opt for the better studs.

At 10mph max, I do not see that I would need a better screw. One of the reasons I go that slow is that I have my H20 hooked up on the wheeler and when I go faster, it is almost impossible to read the smaller screen to see what type structure I am on.

[usmcjsy]

I bought the carbide studs for this purpose and did it to both the front and back tires. Works awesome its like riding on velcro. I find it better than chains. I put green slime in the tires and they have been holding air just fine for 3 yrs now. I have 2 sets of tires for the wheeler though so I dont use these except for ice fishing season.

[Great Outdoors]

harvey lee,

I'm with you as far as speed.

However, the Gold Screw traction is as good as you can get, and will amaze you when/if you ever need to drag anything heavy like a disabled ATV, snowmobile, or permanent shack with skis.

This is for icy conditions, not deeper snow for which nothing, except tracks, works well.