Trout Sushi?

[itchmesir]

Was wondering if i would be able to make my own sushi with stream caught trout?

[Dark Cloud]

I have eaten tons of stream trout and love sushi, but I have never thought of trying that... and im not sure if I want to...

[Nate McVey]

I wouldn't suggest it........

[reinhard1]

not in my dinner plan at all. good luck.

[Ufatz]

Let's be clear: are you speaking of sushi or sashimi? I've done both many times. First time was decades ago when a few of us really old guys (names you might know) were in the wilds of B.Columbia and we sliced and diced some nice fat coastal cutthroats, mixed up some soy sauce and wasabi mustard and saat back and enjoyed life on the Babine river.

So the basic answer is: yes, if you have nice fresh fish you have the ingredient you need.

Bo apetit!!

[mainbutter]

You can, but just to be safe I'd freeze it to -10*F for 48 hours.

[fishface]

Could be a great weight loss plan

[Ufatz]

Are you nutz!!?? Freeze fish and then use if for sashimi? Hahahahahaha. The object is nice FRESH fish!

Summa you guys don't know nuttin'!!!

[toughguy]

Bear Grylls seems to like it. Although he's also drained water out of elephant dung.

[TigerBlood]

Are you nutz!!?? Freeze fish and then use if for sashimi? Hahahahahaha. The object is nice FRESH fish!

Summa you guys don't know nuttin'!!!

The point of freezing would be to kill parasites. Google FDA Sushi or sashimi Requirements in US. I don't think the raw fish eaten in MN was just pulled out of the water hours before it hit the plate. It most likely travelled at least a couple days from one of the coasts.

[Steve Foss]

I had some sushi loving clients this winter, and we were fixing up some lake trout for supper. They'd never had laker before, and I was extolling its virtues as table fare. I wondered out loud if it would make good sushi. They gobbled one whole fillet off a 5 pounder before the rest was cooked.

And they thought it was great!

In fact, we had to put the rest of the fish away in the fridge so we had enough for supper.

[itchmesir]

Ok.. i have seen a couple of you mention more northern waters here... meaning little to no cattle runoff... which is the complete opposite of SE MN.. which is mostly all streams running by some sort of farm... should i be worried about e. coli?

[flyfisher03]

I would say as long as you clean and prep your fish in a clean area I say go for it. I would not mind trying it sometime. I also would not worry about the e. coli in the water you caught them in either, just rinse your fish off in cold tap water and it shouldn't be a problem.

No matter how food is prepared there is always a risk of getting sick. Just do what you can to minimize the risk.

[Jackpine Rob]

There are several Icky Things in freshwater fish that would argue against Minnesota Sushi. Just off the top you have your basic worm parasites...

Eating raw lakers is bold, to be sure - but I wouldn't advise it, even out of the cleanest of clean northern lakes. Just check out the parasitic worms that tend to glom onto the various internal organs, and then tell me again how appetitizing raw fish looks....

Of course, as a kid I drank out of all sorts of trout waters, with nary a thought of filtering - - until I spent the better part of a week in the bathroom wishing the Lord would take me home. Most of us can get away with a lot of stuff, but that doesn't make it wise.

[Nate McVey]

The fish may travel from the coast, but it is never frozen......the only way something can be called "fresh" in the restaurant world is if it has never been frozen. I've made sushi in restaurants for years and I would only try trout sushi from WAY up north lakes........IMO

[Ufatz]

Allow me to add one caveat to my post about trout sashimi: the few times I have done it we used trout from B.C. and AK waters. Personally, I would not eat MN or midwest trout-or any other fish- that way. Not that I fear infection that much, but the idea is simply not appetizing.

I do not eat fish much other than salmon or some species of frozen cod. I am not familiar with any parasite in fish from the midwest that would create a serious health problem for people eating it raw. But then, I am not a bacteriologist either!

Hey!.....not everything in life is risk free.

[pkv]

My brother used to make raw rainbow trout salad for us to eat. Of course, it was stocked trout so I don't know if the quality or cleanliness is different from natural stream trout. He used a lot of lime/lemon which probably cooked the meat too...

Happy eating!

[TigerBlood]

Nate, you are correct about the "fresh" label. But that's where I totally agree with Ufatz. While something three days old and never frozen can still be classified as Fresh...to me, fresh means caught locally and served same or next day.

To the original poster, I'm sure it would taste fine. Just depends on how adventurous you feel I guess. I believe the DNR recommends thoroughly cooking all fish to kill potential parasites. As someone who didn't listen to warnings and drank the water in Mexico, I can tell it from my own personal experience sometimes it's better to be cautious. Let us know how it goes...

[Ufatz]

My brother used to make raw rainbow trout salad for us to eat. Of course, it was stocked trout so I don't know if the quality or cleanliness is different from natural stream trout. He used a lot of lime/lemon which probably cooked the meat too...

Happy eating!

Now you are close to talking about cerviche' which uses fresh fish and lots of lime juice, salt, cilantro etc.

We must pay attention fellas to our terms. There is a difference between sushi, sashimi and cerviche. For today's lesson I want you to look them up in the BIG book.

There may be a test tomorrow. Bon A petite'.

[itchmesir]

Nate, you are correct about the "fresh" label. But that's where I totally agree with Ufatz. While something three days old and never frozen can still be classified as Fresh...to me, fresh means caught locally and served same or next day.

To the original poster, I'm sure it would taste fine. Just depends on how adventurous you feel I guess. I believe the DNR recommends thoroughly cooking all fish to kill potential parasites. As someone who didn't listen to warnings and drank the water in Mexico, I can tell it from my own personal experience sometimes it's better to be cautious. Let us know how it goes...

that's just plain stupidity there

[TigerBlood]

Oh, it absolutely was stupid on my part (many, many years ago). But, couldn't I say the same thing about someone wanting to eat a trout raw from a SE MN stream which may have run off from cow pastures and/or Farm fields? I didn't though :-). Like I said - let us know how it goes...

[Nate McVey]

Ufatz, you keep beating me to the punch

Ceviche isn't technically raw anymore as the lime juice "cooks" the fish/seafood. Shrimp ceviche is one of my favorite summer evening dishes.

As for the water in Mexico, I drink it when I'm down there and have never got the "revenge" (just lucky I guess).

I still don't think eating a raw trout from a SE MN is a good idea........

[Ufatz]

Ahhhhh Nate,you are a man of rare courage. I would choose to fly inverted under the Mendota Bridge before I'd risk drinking the water almost any place in Mexico.

We always travel around Mexico with a case or Perrier or Fiji. And now days we don't travel around down there at all.

But a guy who would GO there and DRINK the water is indeed a man of daring and fortitude.

[Steve Foss]

So can someone lead me through the whole sushi thing? Those sushi lovers talked about sea fish as sushi, and that they'd never had freshwater fish as sushi. Is that the way it is all over? Is there some reason ocean fish is used while freshwater fish is not?

Thanks!

[itchmesir]

I guess from what i read.. Salt water fish do not carry parasites? and fresh water do... so i think i'll be nixing this idea