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I have an XDm 40, 4 inch and a wather pk 380.

just a question, why would anyone not always conceal thier weapon? in my opinion open carry, although legal, is not good PR. Just a question, not tryin to start an arguement

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I have an XDm 40, 4 inch and a wather pk 380.

just a question, why would anyone not always conceal thier weapon? in my opinion open carry, although legal, is not good PR. Just a question, not tryin to start an arguement

Some people open carry for their line of work. Security, military, law enforcement, and gun shops just to name a few.

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I have an XDm 40, 4 inch and a wather pk 380.

just a question, why would anyone not always conceal their weapon? in my opinion open carry, although legal, is not good PR. Just a question, not trying to start an argument

1.Guy/gal on the fence about guns and their evilness see people open carrying, multiple people. Nothing bad happens from all these people open carrying. So they start to doubt the the evilness of guns and the lies the anti gunners have been telling for years.

2. Way more comfortable

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tracker X-2- congrats on taking the test and class now if you have the opportunity to take a tactical gun training class please do. It's one thing having a carry permit it's another thing being able to defend yourself in a situation. Know that with a carry permit you are held to a higher level of responsibility than an unarmed civilian. Continuing education and training is the key to being able to make the right decision should you have to defend yourself. Again, welcome to those who carry.

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Or instead of paying someone to teach you how to shoot, you could participate in any number of shooting leagues that are going to be starting up soon. IDPA and USPSA style shooting will both improve your shooting and confidence in your abilties. There are plenty of people that will be more than willing to help you out at these events at all skill levels. Instead of learning the instructors way of doing things you will be able to see many different approaches to solve the shooting problem and choose what will work best for you.

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Or instead of paying someone to teach you how to shoot, you could participate in any number of shooting leagues that are going to be starting up soon. IDPA and USPSA style shooting will both improve your shooting and confidence in your abilties. There are plenty of people that will be more than willing to help you out at these events at all skill levels. Instead of learning the instructors way of doing things you will be able to see many different approaches to solve the shooting problem and choose what will work best for you.

Leagues are great and one of the best ways to stay ontop of your shooting game, but they don't really teach the fundamentals of making split second decisions, how to be aware of your surroundings, holster/dress selection, how to shoot under stress, transitioning from a close contact struggle to your gun, etc. that a good defensive/tactical pistol course is going to cover. There are some great dvd's out there that I've watched that provide some great insight and drills to do on your own, but all the LEO's and even the guys I know that were over in the sandbox all say that you owe it to yourself to take all the training you can afford. Once you start to immerse yourself in the mindset that is taught, you start to subconsciously make note of your surroundings much differently than the average person walking into a mall, restaurant, or just strolling down the street.

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Well said carpshooterdeluxe. It's one thing saying it it's another thing doing it.

Much more difficult than you think. Unfortunately there aren't any tactical classes of use that I'm aware of in Minnesota. I had to travel to Missouri for a week class and it definitely opens your eyes.

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I wont argue that attending a class would be beneficial for most but that the expense can be excessive and a deterrent. Paying for travel and lodging out of state as well as paying for the class and ammunition can put a large dent in anyones budget. Watching a DVD or televsion show may open your eyes to a different way of doing things as long as you get out and practice those scenerios and drills. However I think the most important thing to learn from a class is the mental aspect of surviving a deadly force encounter. Being able to recognize the threat, having a plan, and being decisive enough and confident enough to execute your plan effectively to survive.

I know that based on my training and experience with shooting that I would not gain enough attending a class put on by most instructors to justify the expense. I still have a lot to learn in the way of tactics to be sure, but I don't want to work on drawing, reloading and transition drills that I can do on my own. I routinely fire approximately 8-10 thousand rounds of handgun a year and dry fire practice 1-2 hours per week based on the time of year.

For the average shooter or person looking to carry a weapon attending a league match and talking with experienced competitvie shooters, law enforcement, SWAT officers, state patrol, ATF agents or military personel for the price of admission and a Saturday afternoon or weekday evening might be a little more cost effective.

What ever route people choose, please practice, be decisive and proficient. I am just offering one more tool not the solution.

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