rymcneil Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Is fluorocarbon leaders the best overall leaders? Is longer better? I don't see the point of using wire when floro seems to disappere in the water Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Advantage is Flouro lasts longer, no kinks, bending ect, they dont dissapear by any means 130# flouro or bigger is still easily seen. I have been running the same 2 Stealths for 2 going on 3 seasons now, sometimes go through 1-2 wire ones a week or even a day. I can't think of a reason to not run them in fact. I run 12" 130 or maybe 150# Stealths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWH Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I'm with Esox on this one. Durability is without a doubt a more important factor to me in choosing fluoro over wire. Although they cost more per leader, that's irrelevant with how many wire leaders you would go through for every fluoro leader.Just be aware that there's a lot of fluoro leaders on the market. Some good. Some that I wouldn't trust at all. The Stealth leaders are top quality all the way around.Some people like wire leaders for jerk baits/walk the dog baits. But I haven't found a bait that fluoro doesn't work with. 130# or higher is what I would suggest for most applications when it comes to muskies.As far as length, 12" to 14" is pretty standard for casting. If you're looking for trolling leaders you'll want to go longer. 36" is typical for trolliing leaders. The longer fluoro leaders help to protect the fish when they roll up in your line which they are known for doing when trolling.Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNnGUN Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The only time I use wire is when I'm throwing a glider or walk-the-dog topwater. I use a straight 174# wire with no ball bearing swivel. Any other bait (mainly blades, rubber, or prop-style topwater), I run a 15" 150# flouro leader. I agree with Esox_Magnum, there's no reason not to run flouro, they TYPICALLY last a lot longer and don't kink. Just be sure to check your leader after every fish, because they can get knicked up, and when they do, put a new one on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'm getting to the point I use the flouro for everything. One of the few baits I still use wire is a 8" weagle, 10's I run on the flouro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delmuts Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 "One of the few baits I still use wire is a 8" weagle" Why? Fouling,action, or confidence?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 No snaps or swivels is the only reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guideman Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well, call me old fashioned but I still use wire for all my leaders and have had none of the problems mentioned here. I make my own and they are coated so I don't have that many problems with kinks. Muskies aren't leader shy and I just don't see any reason (Most of the time)for a floro leader. It's still just mono afterall and I don't like using anything they can bite right off. If you build them correctly a wire leader doesn't fail under pressure. I have been making my own for about 15 years now and I have never lost a fish or a bait to leader failure. Snaps and swivels will only last so long, whether they are connected to wire or floro, they won't last forever. It only cost me about a $1.50 to make a leader, even a cheap floro can't match that for ecconomy. Besides, I'm old and It's tough to start over when you have something that works. lol JMHO"Ace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Ace, I have had fish totaly destroy a wire leader, also destroyed plenty just casting fom fouled baits, no problems yet with the flouro besides not using it for the low vis factor but due to the fact they last. They also work great on your waters when I'm up there. Flouro I have found brings new life to some baits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Kuhn Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I think you'd be surprised how tooth resistant heavy test flouro is. I caught about a 32" pike last year by the leader (it missed the bait, and clamped down with the leader through it's mouth. There wasn't a hook in the fish). There was a slight nick in the leader, but nothing even close to failure (>95% of cross sectional area was still in tact, therefore it was retaining 95% of it's break strength). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guideman Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Leaders getting fouled by a bait is typically operator error most of the time, it really doesn't have much to do with which type leader you use. We could banter this back and forth until dooms day and I doubt either one will change their opinion. I'll keep using wire until something else comes along that I have more confidence in and right now, that just ain't happening with floro. Like I said call me old fashioned, but I like wire."Ace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymcneil Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Thanks for the info guys! 5 more months to go. I'm having a hard time waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delmuts Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 rymcneil I'm with you, but i don't have to wait as long! Just finished sharpening the hooks on four new lures yesturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50inchpig Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm a wire guy - cheap and easy, never failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrash Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Ace are you making any wieghted leaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm a wire guy - cheap and easy, never failed. All in due time, I have broke a few, solid wire, 7 strand and Titanium's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guideman Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hey Krash,No I haven't made any weighted leaders yet. Never used one before."Ace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guideman Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 It's not the wire that fails, it's the connections and the hardware.Any clip or swivel will fail if you use it to long, even on floro."Ace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 All I have broke were mid wire all but 1 less than an hour use, 2 were on a backlash, one just broke. I have seen the 7 strand and Titaniums fray at the crips, main reason I quit using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrash Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Hey Krash,No I haven't made any weighted leaders yet. Never used one before."Ace" Me either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50inchpig Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 what is a "backlash"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 what is a "backlash"? Professional overrun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrooks Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Nice answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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