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[Getanet]

I found this quote on Wabasha County Online. I'd provide a link, but that may be against forum rules. If you Google the Resolution Number it's not hard to find. If you've looked into how much it costs to hunt private land in Door County, WI, it's not out of the realm of possibility that counties will look to deer hunting for financial

reasons:

Wabasha County Board of Commissioners

Meeting of November 23, 2010

Adopted Unanimously

HALL - RIESTER

Resolution No.: 2010-225

Whereas, Whitetail deer are a valuable and renewable natural resource, and; Whereas, Minnesota is home to a large deer herd and vast amounts of high quality deer habitat, much of it available to the public for hunting, and; Whereas, Minnesota was once the top state in the nation for producing high numbers of Boone and Crockett record book bucks, but because of the way the herd has been managed for more than 35 years, Minnesota has fallen steadily in the record books, and; Whereas, this dramatic fall in the numbers of trophy bucks is an indication of the number of mature bucks in the deer herd in this state, and is also an indicator of the health of the Minnesota deer herd, and;

Whereas, because of the relatively few mature bucks in the deer herd, this has cost the state of Minnesota millions of dollars in lost revenue, and has cost the private sector in this state many millions more in revenue from lost opportunity as well as in real dollar costs, and;

Whereas, Deer management decisions and changes have proven to be very difficult for the DNR to make and for the deer hunting community to accept,

Now Therefore be it Resolved by the Wabasha County Board of Commissioners urges that a commission of all interested stakeholders including the hunting and conservation, government, political, agriculture, business and tourism communities be formed in order to evaluate the current deer management system in Minnesota, and to consider management practices, changes and goals that could be made to the current system in order to maximize the recreational and economic potential of the deer recourses of Minnesota in the future.

[someday]

The Resolution simply sets up a committee to do a study on an economic development plan being presented here in SE MN. I think they are to look at the feasibility which certainly exists, and the potential benefits to existing business, (hotels gun dealers taxidermists etc. The plan states that SE MN once held the world records for whitetail deer but since it has been managed to reduce deer damage and not trophy racks it is no longer even on the radar of those looking for a trophy. It says this area is the best trophy deer growing area in the world. Yet the trophy hunter trade journals only talk about places like SE Iowa or Kansas. Just look at the Whitewater near You. How many trophy deer do you know of that have come out of there? Just imagine what would happen if a new world record came out of the Whitewater? what if the shooter said I saw a bigger one but he was on private land. Can you guess what a hunting lease too a farm next to Whitewater State Park would bring?

[hockeybc69]

I would think that APR is a huge piece that directly affects exactly what they are looking to do. Thats great news!

[96trigger]

Someday, I apologize, you were right about the resolution, but I don't see how it will have any effect on what the DNR does. Judging by the resolution, I don't see it doing much at all.

It sounds an aweful lot like what the DNR has been proposing for a long time. Only now, its coming from elected officials that represent the people of that county.

Maybe they think the DNR hasn't gone far enough with APR and no cross tagging.

[96trigger]

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How many trophy deer do you know of that have come out of there? Just imagine what would happen if a new world record came out of the Whitewater?

Lots of nice bucks come out of Whitewater. A few trophy's too.

I have as good a chance of winning the lottery as Whitewater does of producing a world record whitetail. Even with APR and no cross tagging bucks, that place gets hit hard, gets hit often. Many of the "trophy's" are 3.5, maybe 4.5 years old. It would not be impossible, just highly unlikely.

Many of the farms in this area are family owned and have been hunted by the families for generations. They are not going to lease the land to outfitters. Do you want to know why Buffalo County gets so many leases? Its because of the big dairy and crop operations that buy all the small farms, and don't care about the recreation land, so they lease it to outfitters. It's already happening in Wabasha county, just not on the scale that it is in Buffalo County.

[Getanet]

Maybe they think the DNR hasn't gone far enough with APR and no cross tagging.

When reviewing the results of the DNR survey in that area I would argue they've gone far enough. Only 53% of respondents support "enacting mature buck regulations," 47% support APR and 50% support no cross tagging.

If I'm an elected official, those figures are a long way from a mandate.

[96trigger]

I agree with you, my comment was sarcasm. Although, I don't see 53% percent as being an "only" percentage. 53% would be more than enough to elect someone to office.

[someday]

With corn futures approaching $7 and bean futures over $14 allot of peoples plans are changing especially if they are feeding livestock. Land rents for 200bu corn ground are getting into the $400 range. Hard to say what one might do if someone showed up and offered you say $20,000 to go hunt somewhere else. As for Whitewater the genetics are there as are everything else to grow a world record he just needs a sanctuary where he can reach his prime.

[Jameson]

Resolution No.: 2010-225

Whereas, Whitetail deer are a valuable and renewable natural resource, and;

Whereas, Minnesota is home to a large deer herd and vast amounts of high quality deer habitat, much of it available to the public for hunting, and;

Whereas, Minnesota was once the top state in the nation for producing high numbers of Boone and Crockett record book bucks, but because of the way the herd has been managed for more than 35 years, Minnesota has fallen steadily in the record books, and; Whereas, this dramatic fall in the numbers of trophy bucks is an indication of the number of mature bucks in the deer herd in this state, and is also an indicator of the health of the Minnesota deer herd, and;

Whereas, because of the relatively few mature bucks in the deer herd, this has cost the state of Minnesota millions of dollars in lost revenue, and has cost the private sector in this state many millions more in revenue from lost opportunity as well as in real dollar costs, and;

Whereas, Deer management decisions and changes have proven to be very difficult for the DNR to make and for the deer hunting community to accept,

Now Therefore be it Resolved by the Wabasha County Board of Commissioners urges that a commission of all interested stakeholders including the hunting and conservation, government, political, agriculture, business and tourism communities be formed in order to evaluate the current deer management system in Minnesota, and to consider management practices, changes and goals that could be made to the current system in order to maximize the recreational and economic potential of the deer recourses of Minnesota in the future.

Adopted Unanimously

[someday]

I do not believe the Commissioners have any interest in getting involved with the DNR's management of the deer herd just doing a study on a economic plan presented to them. The author of the plan how ever if I remember right clearly states he should be the one managing the deer herd since he would do so for its greatest economic value.

[Dusty]

I watched a program on the outdoor channel a while back on hunting deer in Illionis. they mentioned that since the conception of QDM, the price of even marginal farm land had gone way up and has been leased and bought up by outfitters.

Could this happen here? Nah, Unkle Bill would never do that to us, Would He?

[someday]

All of this is just a normal progression of things and has been going on since civilization first began. When the first hunter-gathers decided they didn't want to travel around anymore and take what nature gave. they settled in one place and cultivated natural things for themselves and their local community. When they got better at cultivating they produced more than they needed locally and learned they could trade them to those who didn't have as much and so started commerce. In time many of these items became common and standards got established. Today many of these items along with other things we now use are called commodities. All commodities have several things in common. They have value, not every one who wants them has their own ready supply, a standard is established by which quality can be determined, and the ability to produce more of the item that meets or exceeds the standard than is needed by the producer exists. While corn and soybeans are obvious commodities, even traded on the CBOT. Few think of big bucks as commodities. Yet recent changes in the rules have given them all the needed qualifications to be one. Deer with large horns have always had value, and more people desired to have them than had ready access. What has changed here in SE Minnesota is a standard has been set which is to be reached before harvest and this should increase the local supply. It was inevitable that someone would seek to set up a market to profit from this new commodity.