packers overrated???

[Steve Foss]

legislaturly.

Dude! I got . . . . nothing. Absolutely nothing. Speechless!

Hey Tom, you poormouth, deep down inside I don't drink KoolAid of ANY color. That's what makes me lame as a football fan. I can't help recognizing the warts when I see them. Good thing Super Bowl trophies never grow warts, eh?

[Shack]

Just starting to get worried Tom.

I feel we are going to have a good season this year, but I am realist and of course, a Vikes fan. I know MN (voting) Vikings fans. I think we would gain more support with a bomb season, then a playoff blooper ending season. After the year we had last season and NO interest in even talking about a stadium to keep the Vikes here?

I get the no Super Bowl win thing, but why wait till the last minute? Is that what MN is waiting for?

Blow it off if you will, but in retrospect we are down to the wire dude!

[Shack]

I had to look that one up. Maybe I should have used "ie"?

[zepman]

Just starting to get worried Tom.

I feel we are going to have a good season this year, but I am realist and of course, a Vikes fan. I know MN (voting) Vikings fans. I think we would gain more support with a bomb season, then a playoff blooper ending season. After the year we had last season and NO interest in even talking about a stadium to keep the Vikes here?

I get the no Super Bowl win thing, but why wait till the last minute? Is that what MN is waiting for?

Blow it off if you will, but in retrospect we are down to the wire dude!

Shack...are you following the NFL in California at all? This week both the Chargers and the Raiders have local black-outs to their HOME OPENERS...can't sell the stadiums out. No team in L.A....and no one there cares...everyone is from somewhere else that lives there anyway and cheers for their home team....which is not L.A.

A stadium deal will get done...and yes, it will go down to the wire...always does. The last thing the NFL wants is for Minnesota to move anywhere.

[CJH]

+1

Its almost a done deal that the Chargers will move to LA if anybody does. They are in really bad shape. Jags would be second.

[mrklean]

i hope your right im a pack fan all the way but would hate to see that vikes leave town

[CJH]

Go watch a Jags game and see how empty the stadium is. Pretty pathetic. The Vikes have good attendance, and there is no way the league would let an owner walk away from that when there are teams much worse off. This is still the 16th largest market in the country, and they are well aware of that.

I am a Pack fan, so I would prefer to see them go. I just don't see it happening however.

[zepman]

I don't get it when Packer fans say they'd like to see the Vikes leave. As a Viking fan, I would be irate at the thought of the Packers leaving and losing one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

[Born2Fish]

I agree. As much as I LOATHE the Packers, I would hate to see them go anywhere. It is ALWAYS a fun 2 games to watch during the regular season. Even IF we do beat them twice a year!

[Steve Foss]

I don't get it when Packer fans say they'd like to see the Vikes leave. As a Viking fan, I would be irate at the thought of the Packers leaving and losing one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

+1

Wore my leather Packers Starter jacket around town running errands this morning. Got lots of double takes. I love being a stranger in a strange land.

[CJH]

I don't get it when Packer fans say they'd like to see the Vikes leave. As a Viking fan, I would be irate at the thought of the Packers leaving and losing one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

The reason: so we would get to see all of the games. Only 5-8/year are broadcast in MN because of the NFL broadcasting rules. That's the only reason. Going to a sports bar to see the games that aren't broadcast in our area gets pretty expensive!

The rivalry is good, especially since the bears haven't been for a few years!!!

[zepman]

Move to Wisconsin then...what makes you think the networks would automatically show the Packers games in Minnesota.

Nobody here likes the Packers...I know I wouldn't watch.

[CJH]

Move to Wisconsin then...what makes you think the networks would automatically show the Packers games in Minnesota.

Nobody here likes the Packers...I know I wouldn't watch.

Move to Wisconsin - har har har, very original. Especially in a Packer thread.

ALL the games would be shown here. There are a lot more Packers fans in the TC than you think. There is a reason they show as many of their games in this market as they do. You wouldn't have to watch!!!

Let's get back on topic.......

[nonteepical]

I don't get it when Packer fans say they'd like to see the Vikes leave. As a Viking fan, I would be irate at the thought of the Packers leaving and losing one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

it's only a rivalry to vikings fans, the bears are the packers rivalry for 90% of wisconsin.

[zepman]

That's [PoorWordUsage] and you know it...I have family in Wisconsin and went to school with a ton of people from Wisconsin who feel differently.

I'm not saying the Bears are not huge rivals with the Pack...I know they are...but Vikings/Packers is almost always a nationally televised event. There is a reason for that.

CJH...you live in Minnesota and complain that you aren't getting enough Packer games televised in Minnesota....DUH!!!

[snoozebutton]

I don't get it when Packer fans say they'd like to see the Vikes leave. As a Viking fan, I would be irate at the thought of the Packers leaving and losing one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

[james_walleye]

Who cares if the vikings are the 2nd biggest rivalry? As a viking fan i would say the bears are the 2nd biggest rivalry behind the pack and i wouldnt want to see that rivalry gone either.

[CJH]

CJH...you live in Minnesota and complain that you aren't getting enough Packer games televised in Minnesota....DUH!!!

And if the Vikes weren't here anymore we would get all of the Packer games. Didn't think it was that hard to understand............

[Mimic Shiner]

I'll add one more Zepman, people that live in western Wisconsin that are subject to only twin cities media, only get vikings games if the two are playing at the same time. So how should that sit with Wisconsin residents?

[Antero]

There could be more Packer games on Minny tv in the next few years if you factor in the blackouts that will come when TJack takes the reins.

[CJH]

I'd buy the NFL Sunday Ticket if I could get it through Comcast. But I am not changing everything over just to get it. Stupid.

[mrklean]

i wonder if the vikes stink it up all year if Ziggy will still want to move the team?

[Stcloudangler]

i wonder if the vikes stink it up all year if Ziggy will still want to move the team?

No need to worry your cheesebrains about that yet...

There's still 14 games left boys, and I believe they started 0-2 a couple years ago and finished 10-6. Just gotta be hot when you hit January.

[Antero]

Like last year? Or for that matter any January in the 50 yrs of the Vikings existence?

[SkunkedAgain]

it's only a rivalry to vikings fans, the bears are the packers rivalry for 90% of wisconsin.

Ahhh, how true. I grew up in Milwaukee and there was only one rivalry. We hated the Bears. We hated FIBs. The Lions and Vikings, oh yeah, they were in the division too. Then I moved to Minnesota and was wide-eyed and happy. Then someone asked where I was from. I said, "Wisconsin." He said, "So you're a Packer fan?" I said, "Yes." His response was, "You suck then."

THAT was my introduction to the Minnesota fans' hatred of Packer fans. Never in my life had I even thought that there was much of a rivalry here. It would be like strolling through the streets of Kansas City and finding out that Chiefs fans HATE your team. Why? Is there a rivalry? When did this happen?!?

Throughout the mid-to-late 1990s the Packer/Viking rivalry intensified though, so I'll give it credit as being more substantial these days. The whole Favre thing, IMO, permanently elevated the status of the Packer/Viking rivalry for all time.