Ryan84* Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I just bought a blue 10 lbs tank. I think this is a awesome invention. It will be great for my heater as well as grilling. I;ll post my opinion once I test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan84* Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Also, I picked up mr.heater (top tank heater) at the local store on sale for 19.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Carlson Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Can I put a heater on top with out melting the composite, or are these tanks not made for propane top heaters. Please advise.Thank,Ryan They have been in use in Norway and Sweden for many years now, early "90's" I believe I read. They have more recently caught on here in the states for the tailgater and BBQ crews, and are sold for BBQ's use of all types including marine.The concern if a "Tank Top" heater would be too hot is a good one to voice. My thinking there is if you can now hold your hand between the tank you have now, and the Tank Top heater without injury...it will not be any hotter to the spun fiberglass with the exterior shroud on it...so should be as safe at least. That is as long as you have the heater in the upwrite possition it is intended to be used in..Da...right.They received the DOT certification for the USA and also are certified for Canadian use too, so they must have passed all tests tossed at them.Great question though, I was pondering it at first too.I ordered a 10# Lite Cylinder LP tank also...I like Lite...lite is good..and I like knowing what I actually have in the tank at a glance...that piece of mind is also worth a bit more to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeakidfishing Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Looks like a lot of people want to know where we can get the tanks. Can you say what company he works for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBuck Posted December 6, 2009 Author Share Posted December 6, 2009 I agree. I'd like to order a 10lb. tank locally if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 It's actually a pretty smart idea for the gas companies to make these...Think how many people will return them with gas still in them so they don't run out. a few million people return those with 1/8 to 1/16 left of gas...well thats alot of gas their saving. They should be selling these for CHEAP to get out to the public to start using and while WE'll benifit from not running out of gas, THEY'LL benifit from saving gas/money in the long run!! Why would the gas companies make/buy/offer them. If people are exchanging tanks with a little fuel left in them then the gas company uses less of there product to refill them and still charges the same for the exchange. There making money every time somebody exchanges a tank with gas left in it!!!!!! If everybody exchanged completely empty tanks than the gas company makes less profit because there using more product and guess who pays more to get there profits up?!?!?!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Sunsdahl Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 He is saying people WILL bring them back before they are completely empty so they don't run it all the way. The LP company benifits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH, I see. I can see it going both ways. I would have to say the majority of tanks I filled where not empty, and they where getting them filled before they ran out. There where fewer who came in half way through cooking dinner and ran out of propane. I couldn't tell you how many where at least half or more filled. If they can physically see some liquid in the tank they may try to give it a shot and/or use every last drop before they pay for an exchange/fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan84* Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 airjer----YOU GOT ITRyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigginjim Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I have not seen the composite tanks yet! I have a 10# pancake tank, it maybe 15yrs old but works great, in the boat for these colder runs to the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris63 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I wonder how they are for below zero temps.I read on their site that they are good to -40f.When traveling across Mille or Low at 40mph in a sled sometimes things can and do come loose and get banged around pretty good.I was unable to find a review about cold weather toughness.If anyone has used these please give us a review of the product.Thanks,c63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Carlson Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 The class of plastics used on the exterior shroud of the Lite Cylinders is equal to or greater than that used on modern ice auger scrouds, plus it's much thicker. So if they hold up, the tank shroud should as well...theoretically..I hope. Some plastics are better formulated to take sub-zero conditions so your concern is a valid one for sure. I also like they are made in the good Old USA! I can break most anything with little or no effort on my part, so if mine holds up after a few months, I'm calling it good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eelpout08 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 We have been using carbon fiber "lite" scba tanks on the fire dept for years, i believe they are at 2000 to 2500 psi full and they take a lot of abuse, especialy when your talking tems in the 1000 degree or more range in a structure fire. not sure if the construction is the same as the lite propane tanks but the technology is definately out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Carlson Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Something else that has not been touched on too much, if at all, is the no rust factor too. Rust and internal contaminants is our biggest enemy when it comes to the Buddy Heaters, and these tanks can't rust. So that is another big bonus to the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I don't think its the tanks as much as the hoses that cause the problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbulletguy Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Where can you buy them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainehazmt Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 the only downside is there only good for 15 years and thats from the date they were manufactured where as a steel tank could live forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainehazmt Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 but being around or able to get around in 15 yrs is also the case lol but I do like mine and never leave that tank anywhere Im not lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 15 years is solid. The regs will probably change in that amount of time and you may have to get a new tank anyway!!! Plus I have seen rusting on alot of tanks newer than 15 years....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBuck Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 My steel tanks show signs of rust after about 5 years. If I can squeek 15 out of this I'd be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnelson Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 So where do we get one, and can anyone find them cheaper than $90 for a 10lb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan84* Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I don't think so. I got mine directly from the co. great customer service. This get it this week yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Steel tanks can last a very long time. After ten years they need to be recertified by a propane jobber. Then they need to be recertified every five years after that. I have personally filled many recertified steel tanks that where over 30 years olds!Like anything new it will take a while for the composite cylinders to catch on and earn the trust of those who use them. Time will tell if they can survive MN ice fisherpeople!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeypuke Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Posting for Sutty:He has not found out pricing on the smaller tanks yet, and not sure about the sunflower question either. Quality Propane is the company and they are in Burnsville (612) 788-6906 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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