Fantasy Opinions, Please

[zamboni]

So yesterday I logged into my FF leagues live scoring. 2 of my opponents starters were on byes (Romo and Ricky Williams) today I log in, and he has them replaced. My take is he called my leagues commisioner, who was on his way to the Vikings game and left him a message on his answering machine, then today it was fixed. I have many issues with this: for one, we have since tuesday to set our lineups, even if someone doesn't have access to the computer there is a library where they should make them. And secondly, to be honest I really don't care the changes were made, HOWEVER, I should have gotten a phone call prior to the noon sunday deadline as well. How do I really know his call came before the noon deadline to set lineups? I have every right to know what my opponent was up to.

[zamboni]

I forgot to add, I have a 10 point lead going into tonights game and he had a TE going- now he has a RB, QB, and a TE. I am LIVID about this.

[UdeLakeTom]

Had to call my son one time when one of my starters was not suited for a game...he made the changes for me. I should ask our commish what he would do, but it doesn't sound right to me. How close are you in the standings to the commish???

Could be a little skulldugery.

[zamboni]

We have a 10 man league, we are split into two 5 man "divisions" and the commisioner and him are in one division together, and I am in the other. I am 3-2 and in 2nd in my division, the other guy is 3-2 and in first in his division and the commisioner is 2-3 and in 3rd in his division. He would actually come out ahead in the deal

[gundy89]

You need to get the full story rather than speculation.

I know that a couple weeks ago we couldn't make any changes on our ESPN league. If that's the case, email and or text to the commish is usually suitable. Common courtesy would also dictate that your opponent would be CC'd on it. Also had some trouble with Fanball on Friday.

Also, in our leagues, the entire lineup doesn't set at the noon kickoffs, the individual players lock 5 minutes prior to THEIR kickoff. Therefore, if his guys are on bye they don't lock until Tuesday. If he has guys going tonight, he would still be able to go in and change them out as they haven't locked yet. All fine and dandy. This is how it should be as it allows you flexibility with injuries. If you're entire lineup locks at kickoff of the first game, how do you handle the Thursday games? If your lineup locks on thursday, you can't wait for the questionable players on Sunday's games and potentially lose out.

Obviously every league is different, but that's how mine work.

Based on the info that you wrote, I would say that it sounds legit. He probably didn't even call the commish and just hadn't bothered switching his players as he new they weren't going till Monday anyways. It's not like he's switching out players that threw up clunkers for a MNF possibility.

Should he at least set a temp lineup prior to the sunday kickoff? Probably, but to each their own. Some people spend more time on FF than others.

[mskyfshntchr]

The way I am reading this is he replaced his guys after the games had already started?

In most leagues, you can do as stated by gundy and change until 5 min. before kickoff. Now, in our league, once noon Sunday hits, no adding players. But, in your league, if that is not a rule, that is fine. And since all of those guys are playing tonight, he might have been ok in what he did.

I'd call the commish and ask him what went on. That or post it on your league page. In our league, the commish will make sure someone is starting on every team and every position, in case something happens to someone and they can get on. Kind of a fairness to everyone rule- so you don't get an easy game if a guy has 3 guys on a bye at once.

I guess if you aren't happy with his answer- join a new league next year or get that area cleared up prior to next season.

[nofishfisherman]

In my yahoo league that I am commissioner for it sounds like it would all be legit.

I make it known prior to the season starting that if issues arise with setting your team everyone can call me and I'll do it for them. Of course once a player plays I will not add or subtract them from a lineup. But if a guy has a starter on a bye week and a bench player playing on MOnday night he has until a few minutes before kickoff of the monday night game to make that switch.

I don't really see how it matters whether you know your opponents roster ahead of time. Would it have made you start different players?

Based on what I read here it sounds like it was legit and you don't have too much to be angry about other then the fact that you might lose this week.

[TurnUpTheFishing]

I can see why you would be mad if the switch was done after the deadline but like stated would you have really chosen a different roster depending on his? You both would have played the same players regardless of the deadline misshap right? so Id say let it go.

This is my first year playing FF and we do it through yahoo so no one has to call anyone. All trades and rosters are done on the net on your own time. I dont think I would have played at all this year if I had to make phone calls everytime I wanted to trade/swap my roster.

[zamboni]

I am on Fanball, cutoff time is 11:59 sunday. The changes were made today, and there has NOT been trouble this week with the site.

[zamboni]

BTW- my league has 1 commisioner and 2 co-commisioners, so he could gotten ahold of someone. Besides, I should have gotten either a call or an e-mail from him about it. That is the #1 thing I am (you know what) about.

[zamboni]

But if a guy has a starter on a bye week and a bench player playing on MOnday night he has until a few minutes before kickoff of the monday night game to make that switch.

You have all week, you should know better than to wait until monday to realize which of your players are on a bye.

[TurnUpTheFishing]

Well if everything is done online I guess Id call the guy in charge and find out why the roster switch was ok'd and went through so late. Unless he has a great explanation Id say you have every right to argue it but you just need to decide if its worth it.

[Shack]

This should be very simple. You should have access to your league rules and conditions. If they are hard to read/understand, copy,then paste them in a post here.

Fanball does give commissioners much more control than other FB services. I think a commish can go back and change things from the following week, depending on how the league is setup.

If you have access to it, check and see what time&date the moves where made.

I am about fair play and I hate winning a week when I know my opponent owner for the week has a very lagit reason why changes where not made. Just having bye week open spots takes the sport out of it. Then again, you can make one phone call or e-mail and get things changed. I know guys who run with out even having a PC. That or (if your league allows it) have a co-owner buy in if your season is looking rough to keep track of.

[Jarrod32]

A few questions, as I'll play devil's advocate...

Did he get a message (phone, text, e-mail) to the commish with his changes prior to kickoff (even though the changes may not have been made until later)?

Was your opponent out of town or have another legit excuse for not being able to get his own lineup set?

Did your opponent have computer/login problems that caused him to need to contact the commish to make the changes for him?

If "yes" on any of the above questions, would you not want the same courtesy from your commish if you were in a similar situation?

All of the above have happened in our league. If the lineup changes are to the commish before kickoff, he will make the changes. If the request is late, he will not.

[BlueLundFishrman]

I think you're crying over spilt milk. Most league websites allow you to adjust until 5 minutes prior to EACH players kickoff time. I was in a league in that HSOforum in the past and that you could make an adjustment 5 minutes prior to a player's team's kickoff, whenever that may be. Everyone knows there's players who are "game-time decision".

It doesn't sound to me like anything behind the scenes. Was it a late change, sure, but it was within the rules. It's not like he changed his lineup to players who were playing in the noon games.

You can't really be that upset over one week of fantasy football can you?

[mskyfshntchr]

I am on Fanball, cutoff time is 11:59 sunday. The changes were made today, and there has NOT been trouble this week with the site.

If ALL changes have to be made before Sunday's first game- it sounds like you have a beef. It is each owner's responsibility to get to his team. I would be talking to the commish if I were you.