Poor last weekend and etiquette.

[BoxMN]

So we didn't do so well last weekend, only one duck on Friday morning and saw few flying. Oh well. So Saturday morning we weren't expecting much... but...

...when we got to the public spot (south of Remer, I'll leave it at that) there was a truck parked on the road (a posted minimum main. forest road) leading back to the lake. Blocking the whole road, with his truck and atv trailer. We could see he drove back to the spot, where there was another truck and trailer, and then came back out and blocked it. We assume he was hunting with the other guy, from the tracks in the snow.

What a youknowwhat... and we were early too, its not like we came out at shooting time. There is plenty of room on this lake for 3 groups easy, and even more. So I yelled politely to move theri truck, all I got was a flash of their light... heh. I thought about using my chains > but had my grandson with and I also don't damage equipment - heck it might not have been the duck hunters (...right....)

So we found a spot and 4 wheeled over a rock pile and down old logging trail and still back there, but with scratches on truck, etc. Heh, we still hunted, but by then it was pretty ruined for me, so it was par for the course when no ducks came into the lake anyway.

We left, and I left a note on their truck, very simply "pretty darn inconsiderate" but I gotta say, I so wanted to let air out of their trailer tires.... but I don't do that stuff. I do hope those guys meet with some young guys who are meaner than me someday

So, I had to vent. heh. I did take pics of their truck and atv license, and will forward to the CO once I find out if it is illegal to block a forest road. I know it is stoooopid and inconsiderate, but not sure if illegal.

Sorry for the rant. I feel better now.... Going to NoDak this weekend, where folks are always nice.

[Gary Crichton]

You were way to kind.

[RIPN LIPS]

IF YOU READ THREW THE LAWS IT IS ILLEGAL TO BLOCK FIRE AND LOW MAINTENANCE ROADS I WOULD SEND YOUR PICS TO THE CO HE MIGHT CATCH THEM IN THE ACT. WAY TO KEEP YOUR COOL IN FRONT OF YOUR GRANDSON.

[Musky Buck]

They were just trying to hoard the area to themselves figuring anyone else would just leave them alone and hunt elsewhere sounds like to me, but there is far too much of these kinds of things happening today, maybe they noticed your rig in there on Friday and thought if we beat that guy out we'll have it to ourselves. Maybe figured too must be some birds back in there. My buddy went through this last weekend near Pelican Rapids, except they left him no way to get out with his rig, boxed him in. It's crazy in 2009.

[Chef]

See the word "entitlement" in the new Hope and Change Dictionary

[Duffman]

See the word "entitlement" in the new Hope and Change Dictionary

You want to put some money down on which party the offending party voted for???

[schr0563]

Had a similar experience earlier this year chasing grouse.

Went to a section of state forest near Barnum that we have hunted for 15+ years. Found the minimum maintenance road there blocked intentionally with freshly cut trees in 5 or 6 places. We were able to get out and move the obstacles and proceed to our hunting areas, but it sure makes you mad to see people intentionally trying to exclude others from areas open to the public.

[Musky Buck]

This is a stretch especially with deputies who like to hunt and sheriffs as well but I wish they had some say in outdoor matters. I've been hearing the same stand, not sure who's in it but they've been shooting before legal deer hours for years and years and with the CO's just swamped with calls I wish some of these law breakers that don't feel what's the big deal would finally get pinched. Biggest buck I've ever seen came by 10 minutes before shooting light, I don't chamber a round until the minute before light, I'd have a major trophy on my wall, I never saw him again but that's hunting. You get snow on the ground and these early field shooters abound. Many similar duck/goose situations and not nearly enough enforcement, some will continue to do this until caught and I'm sure there are many repaet offenders as well. I think people view the law and game laws way differently.

[Duffman]

I hunted ducks pretty hard for twenty years on public water, and the main reason why I don't do it anymore is the sheer number of boneheads out there doing boneheaded things. Lack of ducks also has something to do with it, but it was the bonehead factor more than anything.

[BoxMN]

Yeah, it was just something we had considered somebody "might" do someday, but couldn't believe somebody would have the guts/nerve/stooopidity to actually do. Oh well, karma will get them.

Thanks for the info Ripn, I will definitely send the pics to the CO, though I doubt it will do anything other than help these bozos get a tickie instead of warning WHEN they get caught doing something wrong.

We have duck hunted private land for most of our years, and still hunt public quite a bit, and have just learned that if you aren't first, you don't get first pick of spots. But to have these bozos cut off even access to the lake was, well, unbelievable. It is sad when you see this happen with people who we all should be helping each other, but it happens I guess.

Looking forward to NoDak and friendly farmers, and then back to the private lake at my buddy's farm in WC MN. At least then anything wrong will be self-induced...

Thanks for commisserating with me maybe the bozos will read this and get a clue... though I doubt it... they were pretty nice rigs though, newer and fancier than my old 98 pickemup... ha!

[Ray Esboldt]

Chris,

You handled the situation very well. I am not sure I would have been as reserved. Kudos to you for showing your grandson the right way to handle a situation.

Hope you shoot some birds in your next outing. You deserve it.

[Jordyn Kaufer]

Thanks for the info Ripn' date=' I will definitely send the pics to the CO, though I doubt it will do anything other than help these bozos get a tickie instead of warning WHEN they get caught doing something wrong.

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I bet if you do send the pics, the CO up there is a dang stickler and a weinee, they will get a nice little ticket. last year my dad and i were hunting laura lake and here he comes in his big ole mud motor right through our deeks 30 minutes after sunrise on a picture perfect day for duckin... and there were only 3 boats on the lake.. and my grandpa drove by 30min before shooting time and the CO was sitting there in his boat listening for early shooters.. just sitting there doing nothing.. couldnt he be doing something more preductive? anyways, sorry to hear about the scratches you got on your truck for that dill weed who blocked the road!

goodluck huntin,

Jordyn

[kobear]

schr0563

"Forest roads and trails are open if they are posted or designated as such."

You do know most state forests were reclassified. Many of the roads and trails were closed. You can tell because they had loggers pile slash over the trail every 50 yards or so.

Fond Du Lac, DAR, St. Croix, and Nemadji State Forests were all reclassified as limited. "Forest roads and trails are open if they are posted or designated as such." Anything else is legally closed.

[ddsbyday]

Jordyn, you are a young man. I get checked by that co every year. After he checks me out he is very cool. He is a hunter and a sportsman. He will give you a ticket for a violation. He is all buisness. No sitting around doing nothing. Laura and the lake east of there are ruined by early shooters. I am going to thank him next time I get checked. I might even try hunting in the am. again.

[Jordyn Kaufer]

ddsbyday,

yeah thats true, it is his job but i dont see why he has to come flying up in his supped up boat and flying right into your deeks.. thats all..

[cutter08]

thats when i would have got out the 50 ft jerk strap and took his truck and trailer for a ride. I dont have time for guys like that and if they want to play games, I can too.

[ddsbyday]

I know what you mean. Hunting season is so short. I have had him come up in his canoe and while checking me out he see's a group coming in and pulls into the catails and say take-em. If you go by the laws he is a good person to know. If you don't he will find you. I am guessing no warnings. Good luck Jordyn. I used to call him L. the pencil. I think they get so used to violations that they are almost relieved to find compliance with the laws.

[CRAZYEYES]

Unfortuately common courtesy and repect seem to be a thing of the past. I hate pheasant hunting public land theese days. Last weekend although our truck was parked at the small lot on the wpa and you could clearly see us out in the field a bunch of sob's parked right next to us and walked in and walked right up the edge of the corn 50 yards away from us. The worst I have seen out of people was when someone drilled about 100 holes in front of the access on a favorite spring crappie lake so unless you had private access you could not get a vehicle out on the lake. I really hate people.

[broken_line]

2 words. tow rope! i would be hotter than 2 squrriels fing in a wool sock if this happened. it would get pulled as far as my yukon could pull the thing then stick a have a nice day sticky on the window.. as for icefishing a holes.. nothinga little 2 foot slush piles round the tires wont fix!

[Jordyn Kaufer]

Yeah, the thing is though is that the CO keeps lingering around the area of my cabin and the lake when theres a ton of other lakes out there. Yeah he is a nice guy and all i guess and we have never gotten ticketed by him while hunting/fishing.. when he does stop by, we talk n shoot the breeze. Yeah he is doing his job.. but I dont respect the way he goes about doing so.. Oh well i guess i cant really do anything about it so i might as well just accept the fact that hes doing the things the way he does and go along with it. personally it isnt a huge deal to me but it is just a little annoying..

[BoxMN]

Update....

I did get hold of CO Larry in Remer, and he informed me it was against state law:

"This would be covered under MR 6100.1650 sub 1, which prohibits obstructing a road etc on state forest land, (you can look it up on the following HSOforum if you'd like: http://www.leg.state.mn.us/ ) and it is illegal."

Our statement and description of the event is the evidence, and I told him to use it and he will cite them.

Sooooo... the guy will get what's coming, and in the end we did the right thing and karma gets the bad guy. He is just lucky all he is getting is a ticket, as many people would not have been as "gentle" as me

Kudos to CO Larry, very professional and courteous and I hope to meet him some day. I am in no way worried that it would be a bad experience for me.

Thanks for the words and info guys, it helped in several ways.

And if the guy who blocked the road reads this, get ready for a tickie!!!