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I am wondering what is the difference between a 4 year old otter frame and a brand new otter frame because i can get a 4 year old otter lodge just the frame from my brother for 100 no canvas but is there is problems with them i will just wait and buy a new one

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i am not looking for one if i buy a used one I will buy my brothers but i am wondering what is the difference between the used one and the new one

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I believe the older otter's had round frame tubing. Mine is 2 or 3 years old and it has square tubing. That's the only difference that I know of.

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The new 3rd generation Otter tubing has a nylon inserts at the ends of the frame tubing - it is suppose to make it easier to take down & setup. Eliminates the binding that you can run into with the metal on metal tubing (see description on their HSOforum). I have the second generation frame design with the square tubing w/ no nylon inserts. It sometime does bind a bit, but is very workable. The first generation had round tubing.

Before pulling the trigger, I'd price total cost of all the adding other components you'll have to add: canvas, slead, seats, etc. May be cheaper to find a good package deal on used on the usual classifed sites (FM included)

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i bought a brand new magnum sled and seat for 80 not including the 20% off coupon at gander so i just need a frame and skin

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If that is the case .... pull the tigger on your brothers frame.

Besides the Otter canvas opion, might be worth checking into Canvas Craft Norpac R2 insulated Canvas option - I think it should fit that frame - have heard very good things about shacks insulated with this fabric (Frabill carries a model with this material). Otherwise, the "poor" mans insulated version works pretty good - just put a layer of Reflectix on the inside ceiling of your standard Otter canvas.

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Given those options I would lean to the R2 Tec insulation crafted by Canvas Craft. You would gain a moisture resistant material that is lightweight and durable and well crafted.

If you order one request the corner and bottom center gussets be double reinforced at the points where the draft shirt meets up to the sled.

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Ya I would get your brothers and order a newer canvas from Otter. www.otter

Make sure you tel them exactly what sled and poles you have.

The new Ice Camo skins are awesome. Never had any issues with mine.

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I'd recommend trying Otter Outdoors directly for some factory seconds if you are looking to save a buck; I did. I bought a sled, hyfax, and towbar for $60 off of a certain List updated by Craig, and then emailed Otter Outdoors about factory seconds. They have factory new poles w/ demo skins in different sizes available. I got a purple Cabin skin w/ some dust on it from being setup in a store, and a new pole kit (unopened) for $140.

I'd recommend calling or emailing them directly, and you will have to pick it up as they won't ship it to you, and the quantities are limited and may be older models (purple or green w/ previous pole designs). But, if you are ready to spend $100 on used poles alone, spend a little more to get a skin and new poles directly! Or, if you'd like, get a whole new skin and poles, as I don't think the poles themselves are the expensive part of the package.

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They use to list just the skins for sale on the HSOforum if you already had the poles. I don't see that they list them on the HSOforum anymore ... may have to call direct to order.

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i called otter today and i am going to get a call back on the prices for different skins and frame packages i need to call them back tomorrow to ask about their seconds and the costs

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I was just at Otter on Friday. They hooked me up great, I will go there for anything else I need. What I was told by employees of Otter, is the new skins do not fit on the round poles. If it is the newer heavy green skin or the Artic Ice you need square poles. But they do have tons of factory seconds there, sleds, poles, and skins, and you can get a whole setup really cheap. Call and tell them what you have, what you want, and be specific, they will hook you up. Their customer service is second to none! Hope this helps and good luck!

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