ec30_06 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm just curious to see what everyone is using for choke tubes with large sized steel shot. I have been using 3 1/2" federal T's at 1550 fps out of a rem. factory mod. I shot it at a piece of plywood at 40 yds and there were some holes in the pattern. I know it's not a very efficient way to pattern a gun, but it gave me an idea. I might try the IC tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken_line Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 i dont really pattern my gun.. if shooting oppertunity exists.. ill shoot half my limit with a full choke and half with a mod and cound how many shells it took to get the limit with the different chokes.. whatever took the most birds on opener with least # of shots is my choke for the season.. last year it was full now its mod.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRiverRat Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Broken Line, a lot of Full chokes usually say not to use steel shot.I shoot a modified 90% of the time.Improved Cylinder will give you a wider pattern at 30 yards compared to a modified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutter08 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 pattern master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabchaser Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I second cutter patternmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken_line Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 mine says i can use steel.. have been for 3 years with no problems.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRiverRat Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 mine says i can use steel.. have been for 3 years with no problems.. Hmmmmmm what kind of shotgun do you shoot?Unless I am confusing Skeet Choke and Full Choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Ive had my best luck with a mod choke in my browning gold, 870 and my stoger but I have run the IM during a few late diver hunts with great results. I talked with a couple old timers on leech one time and they got me to try a skeet choke over the decoys at 15-20 yrds and I had mixed results dont know if it was me or the choke and I'll leave it at that. I'm gonna purchase a patternmaster soon to see what all the hype is about. My browning full is steel compatable along with my stoger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWadeS Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 modified or full is what I use on waterfowl, new shotgun full choke doesn't take steel so it will be modified for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpshooterdeluxe Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 traditionally, steel patterns tighter than lead, so a lead modified is the theoretical equivalent of a steel full choke.30_06, try dropping down a few shot sizes and do some patterning. you will probably find those holes fill up no problem if you switch to a #1 or BB payload. the #1's i shoot put more pellets in a 30" circle at 40 yards than there is in an entire equivalent payload of BB. a 3.5" 1 3/8 or 1 1/2 oz load of #1's will absolutely wreck a goose at 40 yards. most of the geese i shoot are with 3" 1 1/4 oz #1's out of a patternamster.T shot is a proven crippler load...hence the reason why many states ban it...but if you can get it to pattern decent, it is very effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
169Sportsman Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Agree with Carp. Even BBB tends to pattern better than T. Try the I/C also the last time I patterned my I/C had justas tight of a pattern as my mod but not as many holes. If u want to keep shooting T's get a patternmaster very tight patterns with large shot. I just got a new Beretta and am debating if I want to get a new patternmaster. After shooting one for 8 years or so I think I am gonna have to. lol Side Note: Eddie gimme a buzz some time if u need a hunting partner this fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken_line Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Originally Posted By: broken_linemine says i can use steel.. have been for 3 years with no problems.. Hmmmmmm what kind of shotgun do you shoot?Unless I am confusing Skeet Choke and Full Choke. remington 870.. the choke says lead or steel.. all it says is remington full: steel or lead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ec30_06 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 Agree with Carp. Even BBB tends to pattern better than T. Try the I/C also the last time I patterned my I/C had justas tight of a pattern as my mod but not as many holes. If u want to keep shooting T's get a patternmaster very tight patterns with large shot. I just got a new Beretta and am debating if I want to get a new patternmaster. After shooting one for 8 years or so I think I am gonna have to. lol Side Note: Eddie gimme a buzz some time if u need a hunting partner this fall. sounds good! Im not done with the cats quite yet either, and it should be a good year for eyes' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthWalleyes Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I use black cloud shot, with a black cloud choke...Modified long range extended choke. Haven't patterned it yet though.. Knocks ducks down pretty well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Bear Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Federal blue box BB's with a Carlson's extended full choke on my Stoeger m2000 is knockin the geese dead right now. Gotta love early season though as I don't think I've taken a shot over 25 yds yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchPhotoFilet Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I shoot beretta 391's and I know that three is no full choke for steel shot. Modified lead is a full choke steel. Steel shot is always one pattern higher than lead shot excluding improved modified with steel. Make sure your choke is made for steel shot and your just not shooting steel through a lead choke. Some chokes are able to shoot both as a mentioned. If your shooting 3 1/2" T shot over decoys that is more than enough to make an effective kill. If not maybe a little more practice is in order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalleyesWest Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I would get an aftermarket choke. I personally shoot a patternmaster. I have the mid range and the ported long range. I use the mid range on everything ducks, geese, and phesants. only time it comes out is to shoot Ruffed Grouse and late season goose hunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I used to shoot triple B becuse they patterned best out of my 870 then went to Blackcloud in BB and they have neary the same pattern buut more holes in the paper and They really knock the geese down. I shoot 3 inch shells and I have also knocked a few geese down and I mean folded them up with BC #4's but wouldnt recomend useing it. because of its size I used it because thats all I had with when the geese came over.All of this out of factory mod chokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ec30_06 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'm not too worried about it anymore. I took my 5 birds this morning with 7 shots. Factory mod with T's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Its great to here your back on track ED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRH1175 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 After all this good reading. Which Patternmaster should I get. I have a 3 1/2" benelli SBE1. When do you use the extended and when do you shoot the mid range or short range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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