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What kind of heaters are you guys running? Do you guys have to build your wall out if using a direct vent? Since most of them are for 4 1/2" walls.

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I didn't have to because I framed with 2x3's and with inside wood on walls, siding, and heat shield on furnace I was close enough. It would be easy to put a little on the outside of the hose though. I'm a touch short but never caused me any problems. 

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I use an Empire Direct Vent with 1x2" studs. To get the 4 1/2" distance you use a vinyl siding kit on the outside of the wall.

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i was looking at getting a Williams 1403821 Direct-Vent Natural Gas Furnace - 14,000 BTU

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My wheelhouse is 6 1/2'x12'. I use an Empire 15,000 and it heats it very well. I have 1 1/2" white foam insulation in the walls and ceiling with an uninsulated floor.

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Empire's are great heaters, but expensive new, like Cold One has. Check the efficiency of the Williams. You won't be overheated if you're insulated well but it will probably work. I know that anything over about that 14,000 BTU is where they start to get real expensive so that is always a concern too.

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I can pick up williams for around 500. my house will have 2" sprayed foamed floor. 1 1/2" foam board in the walls and 2" in the ceiling

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14 hours ago, bken said:

i was looking at getting a Williams 1403821 Direct-Vent Natural Gas Furnace - 14,000 BTU

 

Natural gas? Do you convert it to propane then?

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I have a Nu-way in right now...might switch to a wall mount heater over the summer though.   Anybody have experience with the ones Menards sell?

NVM just noticed the Menards ones are the Williams.

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I have the williams one from menards.  Love it.  Went threw 2 empires before that, issues with thermocuplers and unit rusting during the summers, humidity im assuming.  What I like about the williams I have is everything is right there when you open the hood, not tucked on the side like the empire if you have maintenance to do. Going on 6 years and starts right up, it does take a little longer to heat up the house, but whats 15 minutes.  Plus the price was right, back then it was 389.

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I picked up a 1 month old empire dv215 for 75 off the liiist. I had to convert it from nat to lp but that was also pretty cheap.  It's heats my 8x12 that has been foamed pretty good. It will be better once I get a 12v celing fan to push the air down 

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16 hours ago, blue_healer_guy said:

I have the williams one from menards.  Love it.  Went threw 2 empires before that, issues with thermocuplers and unit rusting during the summers, humidity im assuming.  What I like about the williams I have is everything is right there when you open the hood, not tucked on the side like the empire if you have maintenance to do. Going on 6 years and starts right up, it does take a little longer to heat up the house, but whats 15 minutes.  Plus the price was right, back then it was 389.

 

 

How big of a house do you have and what BTU is your heater?

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We have an OLD 8x16 ice castle and put the 30K BTU Williams in it from Menards, I think it was $800 delivered.  It works great, we just framed a 2x6 area when we installed it so it fit as it should.

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On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 0:07 PM, bken said:

I can pick up williams for around 500. my house will have 2" sprayed foamed floor. 1 1/2" foam board in the walls and 2" in the ceiling

Skip foam board and spray foam the entire house, that way the efficiency will allow you to use a smaller BTU heater.

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